D&D (2024) I have the DMG. AMA!

[Micah Sweet]

I’ve purchased the hardcover of Ptolus, so yeah, if the tools were worth it, I would, and I expect the DMG to be a jumbo toolbox.

A jumbo toolbox is what I would (and have) paid for in the past.

 

[Micah Sweet]

There are A LOT of 2014 books out there.

Not really the point.

 

[Micah Sweet]

I'm okay with that - and it's nice to hear the first bit.


Well, I agree with this part!


Sure, but I guarantee you that I can still run my gritty weird western under the current rules. Probably better than before, in fact!

Again, I'm not arguing that more rules variants would not be nice to have. I'd love to have 'em. I'm with @dave2008 in really, badly, wanting a book full of variant rules, and I'm one of the many folks who still lament that 5e never managed to pull off their early "promise" of Modularity.

But I don't think that those variants need to be in the DMG, for the DMG to be an excellent book. This one is that. Excellent. I agree with everyone that it's a shame that there isn't a version (preferably an improved version) of the "Gritty Rest" mechanic, or something of the sort, but I can follow the rules that ARE presented and achieve much the same thing. Or if I like, just use the 2014 version. Or make up my own.

How would you use the rules as presented in the 5.5 DMG to run a grittier game when the rules to run a grittier game don't exist in 5.5?

 

[UngeheuerLich]

If I didn't already have the information? Yes, absolutely.

Ok. But there are thing in it you don´t care about. Don´t you think others have different preferences?


On a different note:
after browsing through the new DMG, it seems as if Xanathar´s guide will still be a very useful book.
Downtime rules. Tool rules.
Falling rules. Sleeping.
Random encounter tables.

Maybe that was what they thought when designing this book. Xanathar´s guide offered better guidance than the core books there. I hope it will eventually be updated too.
Maybe a book like MMotM that combines the best of Tasha´s guide and Xanathar´s guide.

 

[Micah Sweet]

There has been no period in which online discussion of rpgs was particularly golden/positive.

I agree, but I was responding to @Hatmatter 's claim to the contrary.

 

[tetrasodium]

A jumbo toolbox is what I would (and have) paid for in the past.

Very much agreed. I would have purchased★ a book along the lines of 3.5's unearthed arcana book that gave me optional & variant rules. It wasn't that long ago that crawford even gave us a great example of something wotc realized "very early on" that could have been in such a book.

★made my players use too (likely multiple more sales)

 

[Umbran]

I just bought a 500 page (roughly) DMG-type book, and I love the heck out of it. It has everything!

Mod note
That's nice.
This thread is about the 2024 DMG. Please keep it on topic, and don't litter the conversation with discussion of other books or games. Thanks.

 

[DinoInDisguise]

I just bought a 500 page (roughly) DMG-type book, and I love the heck out of it. It has everything!

You can't say this and not tell us what it is. That's like promising cake and than not having cake.

EDIT: Sorry didnt see mod note. Ignore this.

 

[mamba]

Rules Cyclopedia. It's still the best one and done official D&D product to exist IMO

it might also be the only one

 

[Umbran]

I agree, but I was responding to @Hatmatter 's claim to the contrary.

I realized this, and a lot of other bits, were off topic. Let us not continue the tangent.