I may not be switching to D&D 3.5 (Crossposted)

Piratecat said:
I'm not sure why, but my notes scrawled on paper always seem to be more creative than my notes written on computer. Weird.
It's not that weird. I've accumulated a list, over the years, of things that affect my creativity. Being in summer sunlight, early (or very late) hours of the day, 2 coca-colas or 1 shot of espresso, a slight breeze, 9 hours of sleep the night prior, the feel of ink pen on rough paper, my special clipboard, certain colors in my field of vision (azure blue, dark greens, and most yellow-to-browns), etc. Some of it has obvious reasons, other parts don't, but the more individual factors I can manage, the more creative my writing is.

On the other hand, my handwriting is way too slow for actual writing, so I just use it for brainstorming and planning out what I am going to write. To really punch through a couple thousand words, I have to type or I have to set aside a whole day.

As for D&D 3.5, I'm indifferent to the software issue. I use a spreadsheet program, it works, and there's never going to be a software package that matches the flexibility I allow in my campaigns.
 

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Rant On...

Eric is right - WotC needs support 3.5E with at least a new CharGen in the book, if not a revised version of e-Tools (e-Fools IMHO now). I do not want to have either myself or my players limited by the software we have now, when creating 3.5E characters, monsters, npcs, or whatever.

I have to wonder if WotC's "Secret" dealings with PCGen does not address this issue of 3.5E support?

Oh and for those of you that stated "That is why I play OD&D". What are the statistics for people owning home PCs when 1E was out, people owning home PCs when 2E was out, and people owning home PCs when 3E came out? Most of you can figure out what the answers are...

If we had PCs in the house like the ones we have today when 1E came out, we probably would have had software support for 1E.

Rant off...

Danke!
 

EricNoah said:
...I use my computer for everything now -- it's my filing cabinet, artist's workshop, cartography table, telephone answering machine, and magic toy box all in one...

shouldn't this get an Eric's grandmother's warning:eek: :o ;)
 

We'll like Erik said, PcGen and Etools are just to handy no to use when you get used to them. And I myself get more creative by using them then less...
I try weird combinations of classes and while the computer does the math and the rules I get to 'dream' up a good background story or an epic battle scene featuring the character. Instead of just slapping some extra hitdice and a template on a monster I give them class levels and custom PrC's.

Sure I still use Pen and Paper a lot. And I still print out every PDF I own because I hate reading from a screen. I can't map with the computer, so I handdraw them all and scan them in. But I don't feel more creative, heck my most creative moments are when I'm in the bus to school, without a pen or paper nearby staring out of the windows... (this is sometimes SOOOO frustrating ;))
 

EricNoah said:

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we agreed that there was one thing that could very well keep either of us from being interested in switching to version 3.5 of D&D: electronic support. We both agreed that if there are not adequate computer programs for generating characters, spell lists, and monsters (not just raw stats but adding classes, advancing, etc.),
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What is your current suite of tools that you are using?
Ysgarran.
 

NeghVar said:
Oh and for those of you that stated "That is why I play OD&D". What are the statistics for people owning home PCs when 1E was out, people owning home PCs when 2E was out, and people owning home PCs when 3E came out? Most of you can figure out what the answers are...

If we had PCs in the house like the ones we have today when 1E came out, we probably would have had software support for 1E.
I'm sure, but my point was that with the OD&D ruleset I don't need software support to manage my NPCs, the monsters, or my campaign. The rules aren't so complex that I can't run a game without it. :rolleyes:
 

Squirrel Nutkin said:
I'm sure, but my point was that with the OD&D ruleset I don't need software support to manage my NPCs, the monsters, or my campaign. The rules aren't so complex that I can't run a game without it. :rolleyes:
Here's a newsflash: you don't need them to do any of that with 3e either. I can wing NPCs on the fly just as easily in 3e as I could in any other system. It's a stylistic choice to go about creating all the detail for each NPC as if they were full-blown PCs. It's not an essential trait of 3e by any stretch of the word.
 



Eric, stop trolling the boards! ;)

Actually, this brings a good point - just how important are good computer tools to playing an RPG these days? It's not so much that the tools are NECESSARY for play of the game (sorry, Nutkin - gotta burst your tease-bubble) it's the simple fact of how indispensible computers are to all of us in our general lives. Eric, you illustrated that VERY clearly when you said that your computer was your toy, your alarm, your game planner, and your day-planner (paraphrased).

For most of us, computers are an integral part of a 21st century lifestyle (God, that sounds weird!) and without it, many of the tasks we used to do by hand are HARDER now, and we wonder how we used to do these things before.

Eric, I remember your stories of use of the 2nd edition core rules tools, and your use of Campaign Cartographer to map out examples of attacks of opportunity back on your old site to help us all understand them. You've been doing it for years, and just the fact of supplementing what you do inyour everyday life is important to you.

That's the same for me and technical manuals. Gimme the gigantic 500-page technical manual, AND gimme the PDF also! I like a physical book to learn and do an in-depth read of a topic, but when I'm searching for something, I break out the PDF copy and do an extensive search - because physical books can have T.O.C's and indexes that LIE LIKE A CHEAP RUG. There's nothing like picking out every word in a book that references what I seek.

That said, I don't use electronic tools to prepare my game NPC's. I DO use map software (Campaign Cartographer) and I do use Corel Draw and MS Office for my notes and diagrams, but most of the NPC's are prepared by hand - because I enjoy it, and because if I need an NPC on the spot, I use my quick and dirty NPC creation rules to create an NPC if needed. Rarely do I use tools to map out every little thing, because quite simply MY PLAYERS WON'T LET ME PLAN THAT FAR. Those rat-bastards (:)) will alter plans, go to places I don't expect them to, and they'll NOT go to places that they OBVIOUSLY must go, to advance the story - so in general, much of my adventure design needs be mobile to handle players that surprise me far too much.

What DO I use things such as PCGen for? Creation of PC's that I play in other people's campaigns. I do this to have an awesome character sheet, not necessarily get every little thing right. Plus, the inventory features of PCGEN alone make it worth my time.


This is why D&D revised (let's do away with the 3.5 or 3.2 nonsense, in my opinion - it really doesn't describe what the revision is) won't depend on my computer support, or lack thereof.

P.S. - Eric, have you tried d20 Modern yet? Would you ever even consider running a game of d20 Modern, if you had no support tools?
 
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