I might wait 3 years for v.4.5

[king_ghidorah]

Old World of Darkness was mostly meta plot revisions when they brought out a "new edition" the rules on the other hand were largely the same, until New World of Darkness came out.

Actually...

The revisions from Vampire first and second edition were pretty significant mechanically, and cleaned up a lot of messy, insufficiently playtested rules.

The revisions from Werewolf first and second edition were pretty significant mechanically, and cleaned up a lot of messy, insufficiently playtested rules.

The revisions of the magic rules from Mage 1st to 2nd were huge, and to the last pre-nWOD were notable.

The differences were at generally similar to 3.0 to 3.5 changes.

 

[Wanderer20]

For me, more than to wait for bugfixing, it is wait to be sure what we buy lasts for more than the span 3.0-3.5.

I was with those who said "3 years to re-buy all rulebooks are just too few"

 

[Crazy Jerome]

I agree that gradual updates through DI is more likely than 4.5. It doesn't matter to me, either way, though. 3E came out at a time when I was really, really ready to start something new, and very similar to what 3E was offering. It was perfect timing, and I was quite happy to be an "early adopter".

4E is the polar opposite, for me personally. I'm not at all ready for something new in May (I hope to have my house built by then), and extremely uninterested in being an "early adopter". So I'll keep going with my Arcana Evolved campaign, enjoy Ptolus and SWSE for a year or two, and keep my eyes on what all the 4E early adopters are saying. At some point, a revised printing will come out, and there will be sufficient amount of stuff associated with 4E that I'll be excited to jump on the bandwagon.

I'm already pretty sure that 4E will be a great game. You'll note above that my reasons for dragging on the purchase are all about me knowing myself and my situation, not about 4E.

For the record, I own exactly one 3.5 book.

 

[Khairn]

I agree that gradual updates through DI is more likely than 4.5.

Updates and revisions either through the DDI or by the yearly release of new books ... either way I agree with you.

And since I have players without computers at home, and players who are not interested in buying new books each year ro stay "current", I just don't see why I should put my players through 4E.

 

[Nebulous]

I was very lucky in that I went straight from 2E to 3.5, so I don't have any 3.0 paperweights sitting around on my shelves.

Yeah, you really are lucky. I wasted a ton of money on books i barely, if ever used.

 

[Treebore]

Anyone who thinks 4E is going to be flawless, or at least better done than 3.0, in the next six months, worships WOTC.


There is going to be some kind of 4.5. The DI suggestion is extremely likely, as is Ulorians point about the yearly releases of a new PH and DMG, great ways to put out revised rules and not have to call it 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, etc... plus it will be "glossed over" because they are putting out new material with it as well.

 

[Plane Sailing]

Anyone who thinks 4E is going to be flawless, or at least better done than 3.0, in the next six months, worships WOTC.

Blanket generalisation insulting lots of people? Check.

3 day bad? ooo, you're within an inch of it... but not today.

There are lots of ways to express things without being rude to other people, but the increasing levels of rudeness are getting quite tiresome.

Any more in this thread and there will be a banning.

 

[Shadeydm]

Gee, what an original thread topic...

Gee, what an amazing contribution to this thread...

Anyway,
I think if you have already invested heavily in 3.x a wait and see attitude isn't a bad plan, you should have plenty of gaming material to last you until they fix the new edition in 3 or 4 years. Furthermore, there is probably a good chance someone you know will buy the 3 new core books so you can check them out for free before investing.

 

[Treebore]

Blanket generalisation insulting lots of people? Check.

3 day bad? ooo, you're within an inch of it... but not today.

There are lots of ways to express things without being rude to other people, but the increasing levels of rudeness are getting quite tiresome.

Any more in this thread and there will be a banning.

Sorry you found that offensive. Let me try a rephrasing.

If people think that WOTC can finish play testing and put together a flawless 4E that won't need some serious errata and fixes, probably enough that would warrant a 4.5E, then they are blinding themselves to certain realities. As an example, look at the errata list building up for SW SAGA.

However, they will probably avoid publishing a 4.5E by using the DI and the annual DMG and PH's, since they will be publishing mostly new material, they can include rules fixes as well, and say if you want the rules updates just buy the newer DMG's and PH's.


Now if they can put together a nearly flawless RPG in under 6 months, I'll be truly impressed. I'm talking just rules too, I'm not even considering spelling and grammar errors. Unless they interfere with people's ability to understand the rules properly. Like the problems that were caused with the 3.0 AoO rules being written the way they were.

Better?

 

[JVisgaitis]

Maybe it would be prudent to wait for 4.5? Let them iron out all the bugs they find in 4.0.

There will never be a .5 again. They would be insane even to try such a thing. Even if they waited 8 years a .5 would be a bad idea.