I need help choosing a Prc

[Nightfall]

It's not a problem Hulk. I mean no offense to Umbran (you're right in some respects Um, meny people just pick they cause they look cool not for RP possibilities.), I just think since we didn' t have the full story from Hulk here, we couldn't get a CLEAR picture of his character, his campaign or anything else involving him or his game. I don't like making judgements on people when I only know half the story.

 

[Storminator]

Since we're discussing Necroamncers, check out my new Necro PrC class and tell me what you think.

http://test.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13348

PS

 

[Kae'Yoss]

What does your DM say?

I ask because prestige classes for the game are picked by them for balance and story of the game.

Work with the DM, he/she may have other choices and thoughts on direction of your character.

Hmm... I don't like being restricted. If the DM's story is really good it will remain so no matter what type of character you play. If the DM presents us a story and forces us to take this class or that, then it's no RPG, its like I read a book, and I'm sure there are better autors out there than my DM. That's why we all play RPG, right? Play a character you want to play (and let the DM build the story around it. It should be details only, anyway), not to fit into a story made by someone else.

Of course, he can indirectly restrict the whole thing by restricting the available alignments (a CE rogue would be out of place in a campaign where the party goes on a quest in the name of Tyr!), but to forbid the player to play, say, a bladesinger, only because "it doesn't fit into the story" and referring him to the fighter class is just poor.

If the DM things that the PrC is overpowered (maybe because some circumstances in the campaign) and forbids it, that's OK though.


I agree to a certain level: the PrC's are usually intendet as a tool for the DM to customize his world. But if a given PrC fits the character well and the player wants to take it, why forbid it to him. The only thing that would be wise to do in this situation would be to come up with a self-made PrC that fits perfectly into the campaign and make the player's mouth watery, so he will dump the other PrC and take the DM's home-brewn one!

 

[Snoweel]

In Umbran's defence, I'm another who thinks it's a bit... odd, that you even have a choice of PrC.

I mean, isn't there some roleplaying prerequisite to joining an organisation that teaches PrC's - like a proven loyalty to said organisation or maybe even knowing an individual that belongs to the group?

That said, I don't think a character should ever be in a position to take more than one prestige class at any one time.

As the saying goes: "You're either with us or against us."

 

[Kae'Yoss]

A powerful character could well be in a situation where several organizations want him and outbid themselves with offers by the minute.

Or he could be uncertain himself (in this case, the player actually is) and the organizations' requirements aren't that harsh so he could join several of them, or they simply require him to do something specific, like the Assassins PrC, where you "only" have to kill somebody without further reason in order to be allowed into the guild.

Also, there are many PrC's that don't represent an Organization, but a general "profession" like archmage, deepwood sniper, gladiator, and so on.

So in this case, he coule become a Red Wizard (as his mentor is one, too, and not only allows him to become one, but even expects him to), or he could become an Archmage (there's no cabal of the archmages that says who may or may not become one of them).

 

[Snoweel]

And THAT kids, is what's wrong with PrC's.

There's too many of them in the world and they're too easy to take.

 

[Nightfall]

Well that depends on the world. For me, I just use the SL Pr-classes if I'm running an SL game. FR, 95% Fr, an only a 5% use from other sourcebooks. Generic, can be anything.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

And THAT kids, is what's wrong with PrC's.

There's too many of them in the world and they're too easy to take.

Depends on your DM stile, and on the game world.

There are even worlds (or will even be) where you are downright forced (well, sort of) to have PrC's: AFAIK, d20 Modern will only have 6 base classes (one for each ability score) to encourage players to take PrC's early. In Star Wars d20 (also AFAIK, I haven't the sourcebook yet), there's no Jedi Knight PrC, only the Padavan, and the Jedi has to take a PrC in order to get on with his career

 

[Snoweel]

That suits my style.

One has to be accepted into an order and be taught the PrC goodies.

I think there should be a LOT more stringent RP requirements for some of these (ever-increasing) PrC's, Feats, etc...