5E I need help to make a compass using Wish

Julio Arias

Villager
First, I'm not native in english, somethings can end up wrong and/or confusing, in this case just ask for clarification and I try to do a better explanation.

So, my GM gave us a three wishes ring really early in the game, it was a side quest involving a place called Raven Rock and an animated sword in a giant skeleton tomb, the ring have a death rune on it that scares me, but i'm willing to give it a try. A player alread used one charge of the ring, something gone wrong, maybe he planned poorly the wish or it have a curse I don't know the existence and now he need a new character, so I need something really well planned.

And I need help to write a good wish, what I want is a compass similar to the one in Pirates of Caribbean, but I want it somewhat more powerful, I would like it to point to a object, person, animal or plant that I choose, maybe I can add something more, just to help find things related to quests more easily. I don't want to exploit it too much, nothing like asking for rumors of items and chase it saying "Show me the direction for the Cloak of Invisibility" and also no metagame.

I thought of start buying a regular compass and ask the spell for it to show me the direction of the things I want, maybe I should specify it more, or else it might become a extremely powerful item, maybe it should only work with things that I can name, that the character know of the existence and not work with abstract concepts, for example, "Point to me the hideout of the orc I just killed", in this case I don't know the name of the orc nor if there is a hideout.

One thing I don't want is that the GM give me a compass that I cant carry, a glass that is opaque or other side effect that disables the use of it.

Can you guys help me plan the wish?

[Edit] I forgot to mention that my character have a good reason to want such thing, he lost an earring that is the bound I choose to him and is related to a very precious memory he have, but he's not dumb, of course he could ask just for the location of the earring, but he know the power of the Wish and will use it the best he can.
 
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Julio Arias

Villager
If your dm is nice. just send him this post.
It's an option, but the player that alread asked a wish wanted to know the location of an item related to a sidequest, it was an easy wish to grant, however it gone wrong, mine is somewhat more powerful, I'm not sure if he's nice or not.
 

Dragongrief

Explorer
Do you happen to know how the other player's wish was worded? And what happened to them?

That would help with knowing whether the DM is being malevolent, literal, or just playing a being that doesn't like granting wishes.

It is entirely possible that your best option is to not make any wishes.
 

akr71

Adventurer
A compass that knows the location of everything... You are asking for your DM to create a brand new artifact-level magic item where one doesn't exist currently. That is a pretty heavy duty, campaign changing magical item. I would create the artifact for my player, however as with magical artifacts, there would be detrimental side effects to possessing such an item.

Having said that, tell your DM your concerns - that since english is not your native language, you fear that how you word your wish could have unforeseen consequences which are really no fault of your own. Ask your DM if you can state your wish in plain 'out of character' language.
 

Dausuul

Legend
That death rune makes me suspect you're dealing with a "monkey's paw" type of item, where the wishes are cursed to be twisted against you. Your fellow PC's request was quite minor--far less powerful than what you're asking for--and it still went bad. (Alternatively, your DM belongs to the old school of wish-granting DMs, where twisting the wish against the wisher is considered a sacred duty. It comes to the same thing: Either the ring is cursed or the DM is.)

I would not advise trying this. Clever wording is unlikely to save you here. If it's important enough that you feel your character would do it regardless of the consequences... then prepare for consequences.
 
I'd also advise against using the wish. The ring is probably cursed. If I had to guess, it might be that the wisher will die regardless of the wish, given the symbol of death. So, if you want that compass, maybe try convincing someone else to make the wish for you (although I don't really advise this either since I could certainly be wrong, and I strongly advise against convincing another player character to do so because it could result in hard feelings).

If I was in your shoes, I would save those wishes for a situation where you are doomed anyway. Then if the wish kills you, you've lost nothing. Maybe the wish kills you but saves your party (if it was a TPK situation), in which case you at least get something out of it.
 

Bupp

Explorer
This item can be a base of what you are looking for. Not as powerful as you want, but it can be built upon.
 

Ashrym

Hero
I agree the wish sounds cursed. I would be more inclined to RP tracking down a way to build a compass in 5e terms. Many spells have similar functions and it would take a recipe to be researched and developed to apply those abilities. They just won't have the range unless it's a "find the path" item and likely charge per day uses.

Or just tell the DM what you want for the character. The DM might just add the item to the campaign with suitable questing to find it.

I'd be inclined to go with a magical compass that replicates locate object, locate person, locate animals or plants spells for a charge with 3 daily charges as a DnD suitable version.

Try working with the DM but I doubt the wish will work.
 

Julio Arias

Villager
I did my best and It still "killed" me, I'm now inside the compass, It works at least, not for all things but do. Now I need a new character.
 
I did my best and It still "killed" me, I'm now inside the compass, It works at least, not for all things but do. Now I need a new character.
No matter how trivial the request was or how well worded the wish was, in all my years of gaming I've never seen a DM not try and screw a player who uses one. Id love to hear how you ended up inside the compass. Is it the reverse wish, instead of you having the compass now the compass has you?
 

Maestrino

Explorer
Heh. I mean, it says right in the spell description, unless you're using Wish to replicate an 8th-level or lower spell, or creating one of a short list of specified effects, "The GM has great latitude in ruling what occurs in such an instance; the greater the wish, the greater the likelihood that something goes wrong."
 

ccs

40th lv DM
No matter how trivial the request was or how well worded the wish was, in all my years of gaming I've never seen a DM not try and screw a player who uses one.
I dont. Or at least I try not to.
See I LIKE magic like this. So if your being reward by finding a Wish (s)? I intend for you to use/enjoy it. I want to see what you'll do with it. If I didnt? Then you wouldn't have received it.
And I don't have any patience with what most consider "a carefully worded wish"

So my istructions to my players on Wishes are: Don't over think it. Yes, make sure i know what you want. (In the case of the OPS compass we'd discuss it so that we're imagining g the same thing). Then Just Wish for what you want in good faith & I'll respond in kind.
The more complex you make it trying to "properly" word it? The further astray things WILL go....
Do not make me parse some legalize looking document....
I've had two players over the years get it.
They wished, they were rewarded.
The rest have tried all manner of wording games to game the system, screw proof themselves, etc. Well, since they've clearly indicated that they want to play with Wishes that'll screw them.... ok.

Now if you come across a Wish during an adventure & it doesn't appear to be a reward, but more a plot point, then you should be more wary. Although any twists attached will most likely be to propel the story in some way.
 
I dont. Or at least I try not to.
See I LIKE magic like this. So if your being reward by finding a Wish (s)? I intend for you to use/enjoy it. I want to see what you'll do with it. If I didnt? Then you wouldn't have received it.
And I don't have any patience with what most consider "a carefully worded wish"

So my istructions to my players on Wishes are: Don't over think it. Yes, make sure i know what you want. (In the case of the OPS compass we'd discuss it so that we're imagining g the same thing). Then Just Wish for what you want in good faith & I'll respond in kind.
The more complex you make it trying to "properly" word it? The further astray things WILL go....
Do not make me parse some legalize looking document....
I've had two players over the years get it.
They wished, they were rewarded.
The rest have tried all manner of wording games to game the system, screw proof themselves, etc. Well, since they've clearly indicated that they want to play with Wishes that'll screw them.... ok.

Now if you come across a Wish during an adventure & it doesn't appear to be a reward, but more a plot point, then you should be more wary. Although any twists attached will most likely be to propel the story in some way.
I couldnt have put it better. This is generally how I handle it as long the players are acting in good faith, as you put it. Im the same as you Im always curious what theyll do with it, they may not get exactly what they wish for but I dont screw them either although their wish may have unforseen ramifications on the world in some minor way. Id almost go as far to say that a spell that powerful might even have a uilt in contingency so things dont get too out of hand or whatever god whose presiding over magic might have the final say.

Just irked me when I saw DMs go to great pains to make a wish spell a big production.
 

Dausuul

Legend
I dont. Or at least I try not to.
See I LIKE magic like this. So if your being reward by finding a Wish (s)? I intend for you to use/enjoy it. I want to see what you'll do with it. If I didnt? Then you wouldn't have received it.
And I don't have any patience with what most consider "a carefully worded wish"
Agreed. Wish in good faith, and I may not give you 100% of what you want, but you won't get screwed. Try to wish-lawyer me, however, and I will wish-lawyer you right back, and you really can't win a contest of lawyering when your opponent is the judge.
 

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