D&D 5E I still want D&D and Beyond, but...

[Stormonu]

I’ve been feeling a bit bummed lately too. I just bought Shadow of the Dragon Queen and the whole affair of the last few days has crushed my desire to use it.

In many ways I feel like I did back around 4E - the company had taken a sharp left turn away from me, and I abandoned D&D completely for a time. It felt good to come ”back into the fold” in 5E and watch it become scarily popular (though I’ve felt like I’m drifting apart again with OneD&D).

It really seems, like with so many things that all the good will that gets build up while a company is struggling to make something popular goes out the window the moment it “makes it”. Companies go from cheerfully doing all sorts of things and giving out all sorts of freebies to bring people onboard or gain exposure to wanting the whole pie to themselves and angrily pitching everyone else off the roof - sometimes even their own fans.

I am trying to not jump to conclusions about what the OGL 1.1 will do, but all the doom and gloom surrounding it is hard to ignore. It’s so easy to believe what’s being said as I’ve seen the same sort of actions by so many other companies in the past.

I fear that the advocates of the openness of the OGL within Hasbro are finally dying out and there’s no one remaining or willing to stick their neck out to keep it alive. They have shown that they wanted to do this in the past with 4E, but the backlash pushed them away from it. I hope the current reactions will temper Hasbro/WotC from killing the openness of the OGL, but today’s corporate mentality just doesn’t give me confidence.

 

[Velderan]

Ignoring the original call and the entirety of the chat to selectively choose outrage is malinformation, which isn't lying. It's using the truth to mean different things.

I've bolded what you've done, because you chose to do the exact thing multiple times. The earnings report and the fireside chat both addressed much more than just microtransactions.

Your assumption that I read transcripts of neither is inaccurate and unfair.

So why did Hasbro spend $146m on DDB? She explained why; to help them unlock the recurrent digital spending you find in the gaming industry.

Now what form exactly that takes could be anything from 99 cent skins for characters or subscription services or a combination of the 2 (the World of Warcraft model). We don't know yet and honestly we won't know until much closer to 1D&D's launch what the digital support will look like. I'm not sure why you keep wanting to cling to dismissing this as not being a viable way to help the overall brand reach $1 billion, but if it wasn't a key part of their plan she wasn't going to waste time during an investors call to mention it. Again, this was an INVESTOR call so she's not going to discuss things that won't inspire confidence in them increasing revenue overall.

 

[Maxperson]

For 5ed I have bought 8 books so far.
A book per year!
In my entertainment budget this is a water drop.
Likewise my spending are a water drop in the 1.3 billion revenue for Wotc.
So I will buy OneDnD phb and some other books over the years.

I bunch of water drops fills a bucket. That's a bucket of cash for WotC.

 

[bedir than]

So why did Hasbro spend $146m on DDB? She explained why; to help them unlock the recurrent digital spending you find in the gaming industry.

Now what form exactly that takes could be anything from 99 cent skins for characters or subscription services or a combination of the 2 (the World of Warcraft model). We don't know yet and honestly we won't know until much closer to 1D&D's launch what the digital support will look like. I'm not sure why you keep wanting to cling to dismissing this as not being a viable way to help the overall brand reach $1 billion, but if it wasn't a key part of their plan she wasn't going to waste time during an investors call to mention it. Again, this was an INVESTOR call so she's not going to discuss things that won't inspire confidence in them increasing revenue overall.

And she also discussed the film as did her boss. They discussed the tv shows, multiple. They discussed other licensing and several video games all which will cost more than DnD Beyond, took up more of the overall monetization conversation and have a proven history of making more money than microtransactions in roleplaying agmes

 

[Velderan]

And she also discussed the film as did her boss. They discussed the tv shows, multiple. They discussed other licensing and several video games all which will cost more than DnD Beyond, took up more of the overall monetization conversation and have a proven history of making more money than microtransactions in roleplaying agmes

Which all has absolutely nothing to do with why she mentioned DDB and it's potential on an investment call. Absolutely nothing.

 

[bedir than]

Which all has absolutely nothing to do with why she mentioned DDB and it's potential on an investment call. Absolutely nothing.

Insisting that microtransactions are the dominant way WotC sees D&D making money isn't truthful.

 

[Velderan]

Insisting that microtransactions are the dominant way WotC sees D&D making money isn't truthful.

You're the only person saying dominant. Other people are just saying it absolutely will be part of their strategy.

 

[bedir than]

You're the only person saying dominant.

I haven't said this.

And this level of misrepresentation of clearly stated words is why I feel the OGL topic is destroying my desire to roll dice tonight. It's poisoned conversation in such a way that simple words become a touchpoint for conflict rather than people having authentic conversation about games.

 

[Velderan]

I haven't said this.

And this level of misrepresentation of clearly stated words is why I feel the OGL topic is destroying my desire to roll dice tonight. It's poisoned conversation in such a way that simple words become a touchpoint for conflict rather than people having authentic conversation about games.

Uh..

Insisting that microtransactions are the dominant way WotC sees D&D making money isn't truthful.

You sure?

 

[bedir than]

Uh..


You sure?

Saying that something isn't happening isn't the same as saying it is.


I'm going to play D&D tonight so I can forget about this quote fest that demands I carry negative feelings about the game with me