I want some opinions... (gaming topic)

[Tewligan]

No. Plus, Mr. T doesn't post here, as far as I know.

"I pity da fool that don't play the games I want them to play when I'm not around!"

 

[Umbran]

Dang gotta spread some XP around - anyone cover me?

Cover you, to give XP for... being mean? I certainly won't.

Folks, recriminations are themselves Bad Form. It's getting personal, aggressive, and accusative - none of which is civil. And need I remind you that drawing on activity from other boards to support a personal claim against someone here is frowned upon?

Dog-piling on the OP will not be tolerated.

I hope that's clear.

 

[jmucchiello]

A timid request to all participants:

Since Treebore is very upset, and for more than a single reason, please wear soft gloves when posting here.

It's a game. It's not as if he suffered a death in the family —

No, he suffered a medical issue that has made it impossible to do something he loves to do: GM an RPG. So it makes sense that he might overreact to a perceived slight stemming from his no longer being able to GM.

That said, the other guy didn't really do anything wrong. No matter what he promised or what was said, your game and commitment to the other 3 players just was not as valuable to the new DM as it was to you, Treebore. That happens.

 

[Desdichado]

No, he suffered a medical issue that has made it impossible to do something he loves to do: GM an RPG. So it makes sense that he might overreact to a perceived slight stemming from his no longer being able to GM.

I suppose we have different thresholds for what kinds of reactions "make sense."

Being disappointed in the situation makes sense to me. Ruining your friendship over it does not. In the slightest.

 

[ExploderWizard]

I suppose we have different thresholds for what kinds of reactions "make sense."

Being disappointed in the situation makes sense to me. Ruining your friendship over it does not. In the slightest.

Exactly. If I were to have to stop participating in gaming with my group for a while all I would care about would be getting to hear all the stories of the wacky stuff going on in whatever they were playing. Knowing that they were still having fun would be enough.

 

[Mallus]

Knowing that they were still having fun would be enough.

Now this makes sense!

 

[the Jester]

Just to add a little perspective, here is an excerpts from this thread on Dragonsfoot (which is, essentially, the same exact thread as this one, except with a different group of posters, including the "new dm"):

Hi guys I am the "Other DM"

I would not have known about all of this posting that Tree is doing save for my friends letting me know about it.

I have appoligized to treebore - It was a miscommunication and I wanted to take a break from HMB to keep from loosing one of the gamers that hate it and go back to it when able- I also did not have the adventure we were playing in.

I would have had to have people make new characters (allowing them to keep earned xp ) due to a difference of opinion on Character Attributes.

As a group we have been talking about running / playing in Dark heresy for a while now - I offered to run several games .....

I am currently writting a source book for use with Pathfinder - with Adventure so if I were "selfish I would have run that as it would help me further that goal

I love Treebore

I am stunned that he did not talk to me

and really hurt by it

So: He didn't have the adventure, at least one player hated the system, the group had been talking about trying out Dark Heresy, and he would have had to start the party over with new characters. Treebore didn't come to him with his concerns, instead posting them all over the Internet, and now there are issues between them. Sounds almost like something that is going to strain friendships and cause serious problems in the group for year- and also like something that could have easily been avoided by any number of simple things- all of which amount to communication.

Miscommunication is a funny thing. If you think you're perfectly clear, that's great, but communication requires a sort of mutual shared clarity. If you don't get that clarity to the other party in the conversation, it does not matter how clear things are to YOU: the communication has failed.

Treebore's reply is in that thread, but on reflection I'm not going to copy & paste it over. It's not very gracious. The long and the short of it is, if you're friends with a group of people and you cannot participate in their fun, the gracious thing to do is applaud their fun, not complain that it isn't the same fun they would have if you were there with them.

Anyway, good luck getting your group together come October, but if you don't make some kind of effort to patch things up I fear you're going to end up with a smaller, less happy group of players. Screw whether you think you're in the right and the new dm is in the wrong; be a man and apologize for vomiting the group's drama all over the web and remember that your friendships are more important than whether a bunch of people play a game that you like when you're not around anyhow.

 

[Doug McCrae]

Treebore, I think you are taking this thing far too seriously. It's just a roleplaying game. Rpgs are supposed to be fun, entertaining, fairly light-hearted. A source of pleasure, not unhappiness. Ultimately it's all just grown men and women, pretending to be elves. It's really fairly silly, when you think about it. I'm pretty sure Gary Gygax would say the same (or words to that effect), if he were alive.

Miscommunication happens all the time. Just try to take it in your stride and sort the problem out. Don't immediately assume the worst.

Imo it's not a good idea to go online, calling your friend a liar. That can't help matters.

 

[JeffB]

After reading the thread on DF...

Wow. what a bunch of 13 year old girl high school musical melodrama

 

[Treebore]

After reading the thread on DF...

Wow. what a bunch of 13 year old girl high school musical melodrama

From my perspective its about truth and integrity. Which one thing these threads have shown me, mean pretty much nothing to many people.

Plus remember, like the many threads about "game problems" that came before this, I didn't name names, I didn't "out" anyone, and I certainly did not lie to anyone about anything.

I am not the one with truth issues in this "problem".