Shallown said:
Thanks Nifft. I just used some shadows on them and hurt them and but ghouls unless souped up would be turned way to fast. Clerics make undead hard to balance out. I can't always have them overly resistant. Luckily my Cleric player has the worst luck turning things so I will throw some in just to drag players under or I mean characters under.
The way I see it, the ghouls could be "shadowing" the party, only jumping in when the PCs were in trouble. Is someone wading into muck? 10 rounds later, a hand strikes from below. Ghouls would have a perfect "symbiotic" relationship with things that drain blood -- like a Bloodthorn or Stirges. Also, Ghouls are cheap. Sure, the Cleric can turn the first five pairs that show up, but after that? And finally, Ghouls are smart enough to have class levels. Check out that +6 Charisma adjustment! Now, think about Sorcerers and Blackguards...
Here's another monster that might fit, that my PCs absolutely hated:
XXXX: (Small Aberration [Yugoloth], 20 ft. move, 30 ft. swim)
Hit Dice: 4d8 + 4
-- Init +3
-- AC 18, Touch 14, Flat 15
-- Fort +1, Ref +4, Will +5
-- Str: 14, Dex: 16, Con: 10, Int: 3, Wis: 12, Cha: 6
-- Acid Resistance 10, Darkvision 60 ft., water breathing
-- Improved Grab with Tongue attack, Blood Drain if attached
-- BAB +3/Grapple +5
-- Attack +7 (tongue 15 ft. ranged touch)
-- Attack +5 (bite 1d4+3 + 1 Con)
-- Skills: Hide 6, Spot 7, Listen 7
-- Feats: Alertness, Weapon Focus (Tongue)
-- CR 3
Appearance: Lumpy dark green and brown sleek frog, big as a housedog. Insectile fasceted like eyes. Forelimbs end in pads with hooks. Tongue has suckers like a squid's long arms, mouth is full of hollow needle-like teeth.
Tactics: The XXXX shoots its tongue at prey. If the target is smaller than the XXX, it is drawn into the XXXX's mouth. If the target is larger than the XXXX, the XXXX is instead draw to it, latching on with its hooked pads and needle-sharp teeth.
Genesis: The XXXX was part of an experiment by Yugoloth magi to breed Canoloth soldiers for other environments. It was deemed too stupid to follow orders, and insufficiently powerful to justify further experimentation.
-- N