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[Jeysie]

But okay: Would a female ENWorld member please step up and ask questions about spells to summon well-muscled, oiled lads clad only in loincloths and generally reduce us men to sex objects for a while? We don't mind.

No well-muscled, oiled lads for me, I'm afraid. I wouldn't mind summoning a red-haired, green-eyed, befreckled and -spectacled version of Peter Parker that finds me attractive, though. Summon Cute Geek, basically.

I'm not offended at any rate; my gal pals are about ten times worse when it comes to drooling over cute guys than any of the comments I've seen in this thread.

Peace & Luv, Liz

 

[Carl S]

I'm pretty sure that tract is older than its posting. In fact I think I read that verbatim at least 12 years ago as the preface to a book my high-school girlfriend's dad owned. I am fairly certain because I distinctly remember that the author did not know there is a distinction between player and player-character, and the little clause about players competing against each other (specifically that they are out to kill each other).

It was a pretty disturbing book, especially as the girlfriend's father was a child psychologist. He had several books on the topics of children and the occult, and a few specifically on D&D and its satanic influence on children. I read quite a lot from them waiting for her to get ready for dates. I did my best to avoid her father, as I knew I wouldn't be able to keep from trying to explain how wrong his books were, and it would have just been ugly.

I will try to dig up the title. I think all the books were from something like Hearth Press, or Hearthstone Publishing.

 

[Carl S]

Found it: "Satanism: The Seduction of America's Youth by Bob Larson."
I was way off on the publisher though. May have been put out by a different press at some point, or perhaps I am just thinking of another book entirely.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

I have to agree. We had a thread on teacher pay once, after being told that wanting more pay for my job (I'm a teacher) meant I wasn't dedicated, well, I lost it little then.

They were right! The warm glow of helping kids should be more fulfilling to you than banal things like food!

It's always astounding to see people who would begrudge someone adequate pay because there might be other rewards to the job than money (like helping others in need). It's not as if many people can afford to do voluntary work. Everyone has to eat. And if you told those people that for the good of the company, they would have to work a couple of hours extra, they'd probably be the first ones to throw a fit.

I will step up and ask for a spell to summon a well-muscled scanty clad lad who does not only look great performs well in the bedroom but also gladly does housework , laundry and all the cooking.

So am I looking at an epic level spell for this one.

"I want a great lover, a romanticist, a guy to have a great time with - and one who pays all the bills while I'm out having fun with the other three"

You don't need an epic spell. Just several lower-level spells. It doesn't have to be the same guy. Besides, if there's an extra two or three guys around who do the housework, the beau will have more time for you.

No well-muscled, oiled lads for me, I'm afraid. I wouldn't mind summoning a red-haired, green-eyed, befreckled and -spectacled version of Peter Parker that finds me attractive, though. Summon Cute Geek, basically.

Work with me, dammit: Can you at least say that you'd only treat him as a sex object?

I'm not offended at any rate; my gal pals are about ten times worse when it comes to drooling over cute guys than any of the comments I've seen in this thread.

Agreed: The comments here were quite harmless, and I'm sure that people kept board rules, and grandmas and the like in mind when writing them. If you want non-harmless, I know a couple of guys who can provide. I'd just have to smuggle some recording device in when I meet them next. I bet you'd call your gal pals harmless after hearing those guys!

Found it: "Satanism: The Seduction of America's Youth by Bob Larson."

Who is this Bob Larson and why does he seduce America's youth?

 

[Jhaelen]

Who is this Bob Larson and why does he seduce America's youth?

I guess, he was guided by voices...

 

[Carl S]

Oops, put the quotation marks in the wrong spot. Although that reading does do a more accurate job of describing what he wrote.

 

[Jeysie]

No well-muscled, oiled lads for me, I'm afraid. I wouldn't mind summoning a red-haired, green-eyed, befreckled and -spectacled version of Peter Parker that finds me attractive, though. Summon Cute Geek, basically.

Work with me, dammit: Can you at least say that you'd only treat him as a sex object?

Not all of us find the same things sexy, you know. But OK, OK, it'd be really cool if he was a good singer and liked to dance, so he could sing for me and dance with me. And he can cook, too, since I seem to have been cursed from birth with a permanent Ruin Food effect. And I could use a "distraction" while waiting for the clothes at the laundromat. But I need to do the cleaning myself... I need everything where I know I'll look for it.

Agreed: The comments here were quite harmless, and I'm sure that people kept board rules, and grandmas and the like in mind when writing them. If you want non-harmless, I know a couple of guys who can provide. I'd just have to smuggle some recording device in when I meet them next. I bet you'd call your gal pals harmless after hearing those guys!

Ah. Well, in that case, my gal pals are only twice as worse, then. *remembers a few amusing incidents from her youth*

But seriously, women can be as randy as men... scarily so in some cases. (IME, almost anything... and I do mean anything... that can be construed as having a male persona will probably have at least a small contingent of women willing to drool shamelessly over him/it.) It's just that there's a double standard in the ladies' favor about the matter.

Peace & Luv, Liz

 

[Kae'Yoss]

Not all of us find the same things sexy, you know. But OK, OK, it'd be really cool if he was a good singer and liked to dance, so he could sing for me and dance with me.

Now that's the weirdest sex object I've ever seen.

Ah. Well, in that case, my gal pals are only twice as worse, then. *remembers a few amusing incidents from her youth*

But seriously, women can be as randy as men... scarily so in some cases. (IME, almost anything... and I do mean anything... that can be construed as having a male persona will probably have at least a small contingent of women willing to drool shamelessly over him/it.) It's just that there's a double standard in the ladies' favor about the matter.

Ah, those good old double standards

I don't want to enter a piddling contest with you over whose friends are worse, and I know that women can be as bad as men in most matters, but this one guy I know is way beyond everything I've seen elsewhere. When you hear him talk you don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Anyway, back to topic...

Oops, put the quotation marks in the wrong spot. Although that reading does do a more accurate job of describing what he wrote.

I suspected so, too, hence the pun.

 

[Nifft]

And now it's ... a dating thread?

EN World, you make me happysad.

Torn, -- N

 

[TheCrazyMuffinMan]

Have any of you guys heard of Berit Kjos (Google Check, DC 5)? She has a lot of stuff on the level of Jack Chick and Bill Schnoebelen regarding D&D as some sort of occultic catch-all.