Ignorance on the web

[Tewligan]

I see that you've joined ENWorld fairly recently, DogBackward. Whenever religion comes up in a thread here, it almost always ends in tears and sour feelings - it usually starts with someone making a blanket, vaguely (or not so vaguely) insulting comment about some religion, or adherents to that religion. This sparks a rebuttal from an adherent to said religion. The pro- and con- sides start going back and forth, and it gets surly in very short order. For some reason, religion invariably gets people riled up in here. Yeah, other topics COULD start flame wars, but religion specifically DOES start flame wars. I hear that Circus Maximus is much more rough-and-tumble, if you really need to talk religion or politics on a gaming site. Enough threads already turn ugly here with innocent topics like PDFs and tough DMing - why make the mods' job any harder with guaranteed button-pushing topics?

 

[EyeontheMountain]

I'd just send Piratecat a private email if you want to discuss it. No need to clutter the thread.

But for the record, I fully support the no-religion clause. Maybe heading over to Enworld's sister site Circus Maximus or some such (you can see how much I go there) where I hear most everything is allowed.

 

[DogBackward]

Well, it's not that I want religious discussions, per se, it's just that I was wondering about them. I've never really seen anything devolve into actual insults, the worst I've seen in a religious debate is one side simply being stubborn. I was just curious, is all, it just seemed that everybody was really worried about something I've never personally seen any big problems with, is all. If you've got people going around tossing insults and such, though I agree is should be stopped.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

Because religion and politics are two topics that people are very passionate about. So passionate in fact, that sometimes even really close friends avoid speaking on the subject because the truth is so obvious you just can't understand why he insists on being so wrong.

Agreed. It's almost as bad as discussions about what edition of D&D is best (no one here has the heart to tell diaglo that his favourite edition stinks, but everyone else knows it. (just kidding, of course))

By the way, when will discussions about editions be banned from here? I have a list of other hot topics as well! (again, joking, of course.)

Being serious for a moment (have to type fast, can't keep up the charade for long): Beyond the fact that many people are very passionate about R&P, it doesn't really have a place here, so I think it's good that they're off-limits here.

As I said, there are things within the field of RPGs that will often devolve into flamewars, but since this is a site about RPGs, they should still be allowed (and when moderators step in then, they know they're earning their money with core business).

Other off-topic stuff doesn't get people nearly as passionate, so it's not too bad allowing discussion, especially if it ties into D&D (like "what would Mal Reynold's D&D stats be?)

 

[Kae'Yoss]

I'm still trying to gate in a bikini-clad barbarian sorceress. Can someone point me to the correct page?

The BoEF has stuff for this, but Encyclopaedia Arcana: Nymphology has more rules for these things. I guess you look for Summon Sex Partner I, maybe II.

Funny reading, though your cheek will hurt after a while because of the constant tongue preasure .

Still, that quick undress spell would be useful in non-perverted D&D, too. Some short abra-cadabra and the tank you're fighing has nothing on but power attack - and his AC becomes a lot more manageable.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

There has to be some way of pointing out how we are victimized and degraded by these statements. Some sort of touchy-feely movement could get started that would make gamers a protected minority. We could demand to be included in diversity talks and have the right to participate in marches and demonstrations our social acceptance would become certain.

Admit it: You just want to dress up like an orc and parade through a major city!

 

[Kae'Yoss]

There is some serious irony in this thread. Do deeply sexist posts really belong in a thread where the whole point is to complain about a group being stereotyped?

Come on, it's all in good fun.

But okay: Would a female ENWorld member please step up and ask questions about spells to summon well-muscled, oiled lads clad only in loincloths and generally reduce us men to sex objects for a while? We don't mind.

In fact, I *am* a sex object. Whenever I offer a woman sex, she objects.

 

[Melan]

The players gather around a fictitious or roughly sketched map and set off on an imaginary odyssey through hazardous terrain created by the Dungeon Master. En route, they encounter obstacles, such as monsters and demons, which they thwart with violent tactics and occult spells. No one wins. The object is to survive the adventure and participate in the next game with an even more powerful character.

Even if the article is clearly hostile to D&D, I think this quote, especially the bolded part, is cool as Hell. Let's admit it, Hell is pretty cool. Using occult spells is even cooler, and D&D is a perfect vehicle to do it. I know I thought demons and evil magic were the bee's knees when I was 12.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

Even if the article is clearly hostile to D&D, I think this quote, especially the bolded part, is cool as Hell. Let's admit it, Hell is pretty cool.

So it did freeze over finally? Excuse me, I'll have to go and cash in on a lot of rainchecks for different goods and services offered to me, which all just became due!


The funny part is that they obviously object to use violence on demons. I guess talking it over with that Infernal Fiend From Hell is preferrable, and will vanquish evil for more effectively.

 

[Terraism]

Here's an image of a rare talisman purported to have much the same effect as the wand you're contemplating constructing. It does however require the purchase of a rather pricey material component I'm afraid. :\

So, how bad is that that my first impression when looking at that was *not* "oh, nice car" but, rather, "Voltron key! Awesome!"?