IH to D&D experiences?

[Voadam]

So with the Malhavoc sale I picked up IH last night. I run and play D&D and was mostly interested in the possibility of porting over skill challenges. However there are suggestions in the back for converting over the classes and a bunch of other stuff (I'm considering the stunts and feats as well).

Any experience using the toned down conversion classes in a regular D&D game? The stunts, feats, or skill stuff?

 

[iwatt]

So with the Malhavoc sale I picked up IH last night. I run and play D&D and was mostly interested in the possibility of porting over skill challenges. However there are suggestions in the back for converting over the classes and a bunch of other stuff (I'm considering the stunts and feats as well).

Any experience using the toned down conversion classes in a regular D&D game? The stunts, feats, or skill stuff?

I've been slowly porting in the stunts, new skill uses and challenges. The only problem I've had is that skills are a scarce commodity in D&D. Some classes get more mileage out of house rules than others. Fighters specifically see very little use out of the stunts mechanic. The rogue/barbarian is having a blast though (maxed out tumble jump and balance)

 

[Voadam]

I'm liking the feat chains a lot and thinking about ways to use them in D&D, particularly for high level fighters.

Any thoughts on converting prereqs? Base fortitude and reflex saves come to mind as possible analogues.

 

[ruleslawyer]

Why convert them? I'd just assign classes mastery ratings a la IH. It's easy; here's one suggestion.

Barbarian: Power 9, other 7
Bard: Social 10, Theatrics 10, Finesse 8, other 7
Cleric: Lore 10, Social 9, Other 7
Druid: Lore 10, Social 8, Other 7
Fighter: Armor 10, Defense 10, Finesse 10, Power 10, Projectile 10, Tactics 10, other 7 (the fighter is *the* feat master of D&D)
Monk: Defense 9, Finesse 9, Power 9, Other 7
Paladin: Armor 9, Defense 9, Power 8, Social 8, Tactics 8, other 7
Ranger: Lore 9, Defense 8, Finesse 8, Power 8, Projectile 8, Other 7 (rangers who choose the two-weapon combat style could get Finesse 9, and those who choose archery could get Projectile 9)
Rogue: Social 10, Defense 9, Finesse 9, other 7
Sorcerer: Lore 10, Social 9, other 7
Wizard: Lore 10, Tactics 9, Other 7

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

I'm liking the feat chains a lot and thinking about ways to use them in D&D, particularly for high level fighters.

Any thoughts on converting prereqs? Base fortitude and reflex saves come to mind as possible analogues.

The Mastery Ratings (for the most time) replaced the standard Base Attack Bonus Prerequisite for some feats. It is a bit more flexible as that, since it also allows non-combat feats.

There might be more input on this issue on the Iron Heroes website or Montes Iron Heroes Forum.

For combat feats, I would multiply the Mastery Rating by 1.5 (round down) to determine the Base Attack Bonus required. For other feats, you might choose some skills that are used as a prerequisite and make the required skill ranks 3+(1.5 x Mastery Rating). If you want to use Saving Throws (I recommend against it in the most cases, especially since the +2 head start of a good saving throw stacks on multiclassing), the formula might be 1 + (Mastery Rating).