Illithid Psionics Conversion (new thread)

Aside from not mentioning the specifics of the area of effet, and minor semantic differences, I think it's just as good a conversion as our attempts.

I was somewhat worried about doing the scaled saving throw modifiers in 3e, but that was an aesthetic choice more than anything. If we want to be go into that level of detail, then let's keep Noah's version.

- Devon
 

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ok, here's the deal. nothing's really done yet since i posted so much at once. i want to finish up the illithidae first, then the others. most of those psionic powers have spells of the same name, so i will assume that they are roughly equivalent (correct me if i'm wrong, and please point me in the right direction). other powers, may or may not be able to be translated into a different type of spell or spells, or may not cross over at all. as i see it, these (for the illithidae) need a "spell-like ability" analogue:
body equilibrium
domination
empathy
mind blank

also, these 1st-edition powers need translation into both 3E psionics, and 3E "spell-like ability" psionics:
dimension walk
hypnosis

also, how do the attack/defense modes work if psionics are used as "spell-like abilities"? do they work at all, or are they just dropped off if the PSiHB is not used in your game?

Edit: PS, what level of psion do you think the Kigrid would be at? the original text did not specify, hence the ? in the space of its psion level.
 
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In the case of attack/defense modes, just use the Mindblast entry from the Mind Flayer in the MM if psionics are used as spell-like abilities, otherwise the creature gets a number of psionic attack/defense modes as shown in the Psionic Template with the special 'clause' that all Illithid-kin get mindblast.
 

Damn don't have the book with me... but for the Healing it could be altered to the BioFeedback (take some damage as subdual) or just use Body Adjustment (heals damage)...

Sorry I really don't know the 1st and 2nd ed systems well.
 



BOZ said:
These powers are also listed for the elder brain, and I'm not sure what their 3rd edition equivalents are, if any:
ballistic attack
complete healing
teleport other, time shift
ejection, mind blast, id insinuation, mind thrust, psychic crush
empower, cannibalize, magnify, prolong

ok, as stated above, mind blast, id insinuation, mind thrust, and psychic crush are attack modes and can really be left off the list.

as for the rest of this, that's all we really need to make the elder brain complete. :) none of those others were in the 1E players handbook, so they probably came from the 2E PsiHB. so, anyone with that book should either suggest a good conversion for those powers, or a good replacement if there is no conversion. we'll get that done and call this a day. :) a long, drawn out day to be sure, but done all the same! :D
 

BOZ said:
ok, here's the deal. nothing's really done yet since i posted so much at once. i want to finish up the illithidae first, then the others. most of those psionic powers have spells of the same name, so i will assume that they are roughly equivalent (correct me if i'm wrong, and please point me in the right direction). other powers, may or may not be able to be translated into a different type of spell or spells, or may not cross over at all. as i see it, these (for the illithidae) need a "spell-like ability" analogue:
body equilibrium
domination
empathy
mind blank

also, these 1st-edition powers need translation into both 3E psionics, and 3E "spell-like ability" psionics:
dimension walk
hypnosis

also, how do the attack/defense modes work if psionics are used as "spell-like abilities"? do they work at all, or are they just dropped off if the PSiHB is not used in your game?

Edit: PS, what level of psion do you think the Kigrid would be at? the original text did not specify, hence the ? in the space of its psion level.

and an answer to this problem should finish up the other creatures. :)
 

Here's what I worked up for the elder brain's psionic abilities (PsiHB style):

adapt body, astral projection, attraction, banishment, body adjustment, body equilibrium, clairaudience/clairvoyance, control body, control light, control sound, detect thoughts, dimensional anchor, domination, energy containment, expanded vision, false sensory input, greater concussion, inertial barrier, know location, levitate, major creation, mass domination, matter rearrangement, metamorphosis, mind probe, mindwipe, probability travel, psychic chirurgery, psychic vampire (close range), sense link, suggestion, suspend life, telekinesis, teleportation circle, time hop, ultrablast.

Hope that helps!
 

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