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Dire Bare

Legend
Smart TV needs nothing connected.
True, of course. But if you don't already own one, a new TV isn't cheap. Even on Black Friday.

Personally, I can't survive modern society without my Roku connected to my dumb TV. I dream of upgrading to a giant smart TV someday.

But I have friends who just aren't into streaming who are hesitant to purchase new equipment like @Dannyalcatraz, they are just not excited enough about what's available. And . . . . while I don't entirely get the hesitance to pick up a $20 streaming stick, I can totally understand not wanted to spend hundreds on a new TV.

I have a buddy who's wife is, for some reason, severely opposed to all forms of streaming services, she views them like they are some sort of scam. So, since he follows orders like a good soldier, he misses out too on all of the great stuff that's only available streaming. For them, it isn't about purchasing new equipment or not being interested in the shows, it's opposition to the very idea of streaming. Weird.

Oh, and to get back on topic . . . . I'm going to go watch the Disco premiere and latest episode of Prodigy, followed by the Ready Room. On my Roku-connected dumb TV, via Paramount+. Sorry Morrus. :)
 

Zardnaar

Legend
Yeah maybe in Kiwi land. My smart operates everything. Nothing but a power cord required.

Ours will up to a point but it's easier to use consoles all I'm saying.

Could buy a new one but can't physically fit a bigger TV. Think it's a Samsung.
 


Smackpixi

Explorer
coincidentally, I picked up a month of Paramount+ to watch the Star Trecks and have to say I can’t watch them anymore either. I’m so tired of everything being made more ”adult” cause we’re not on broadcast TV. one Of the cool things with old star trek was the family friendly…not so much now. I mean, doesn’t bother me watching, I can, but no longer something I can watch with my 8 yr old. And it adds so little the gore, the Klingon tits, all that. Whatever, I get most people like it, I’m just why? Add’s nothing to story.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
coincidentally, I picked up a month of Paramount+ to watch the Star Trecks and have to say I can’t watch them anymore either. I’m so tired of everything being made more ”adult” cause we’re not on broadcast TV. one Of the cool things with old star trek was the family friendly…not so much now. I mean, doesn’t bother me watching, I can, but no longer something I can watch with my 8 yr old. And it adds so little the gore, the Klingon tits, all that. Whatever, I get most people like it, I’m just why? Add’s nothing to story.

People grow up and they got bored with goody two shoes. Since the 90's the great shows are darker than something from the 80's.
 

payn

Legend
coincidentally, I picked up a month of Paramount+ to watch the Star Trecks and have to say I can’t watch them anymore either. I’m so tired of everything being made more ”adult” cause we’re not on broadcast TV. one Of the cool things with old star trek was the family friendly…not so much now. I mean, doesn’t bother me watching, I can, but no longer something I can watch with my 8 yr old. And it adds so little the gore, the Klingon tits, all that. Whatever, I get most people like it, I’m just why? Add’s nothing to story.
Klingon what now?
 

Mallus

Legend
And it adds so little the gore, the Klingon tits, all that. Whatever, I get most people like it, I’m just why? Add’s nothing to story.
Ahem... Klingon cleavage was introduced to Star Trek during the TNG era via Lursa and B'Etor.

I agree the occasional forays into gore are unnecessary (I thought First Contact was a bit too violent for Trek). Disagree about the language though. That's actually kinda charming, especially when Tilly swears. Then again, I was raised in New Jersey. A place where Sopranos dialogue is more-or-less child appropriate because who are we effing kidding...
 

jeremypowell

Adventurer
Your wife won't let you have it on?

Girlfriend, then?

You're not married, you don't have a girlfriend, and you're not allowed to watch Star Trek anymore? Good lord.
 



Dire Bare

Legend
coincidentally, I picked up a month of Paramount+ to watch the Star Trecks and have to say I can’t watch them anymore either. I’m so tired of everything being made more ”adult” cause we’re not on broadcast TV. one Of the cool things with old star trek was the family friendly…not so much now. I mean, doesn’t bother me watching, I can, but no longer something I can watch with my 8 yr old. And it adds so little the gore, the Klingon tits, all that. Whatever, I get most people like it, I’m just why? Add’s nothing to story.
Klingon what now?
Ahem... Klingon cleavage was introduced to Star Trek during the TNG era via Lursa and B'Etor.

I agree the occasional forays into gore are unnecessary (I thought First Contact was a bit too violent for Trek). Disagree about the language though. That's actually kinda charming, especially when Tilly swears. Then again, I was raised in New Jersey. A place where Sopranos dialogue is more-or-less child appropriate because who are we effing kidding...
In the first season of Discovery, there is a love scene between the Klingons L'Rell and Voq, where you briefly see L'Rell's "Klingon tits". I was pretty shocked myself . . . the scene was a flashback, shot in a deliberately disorientating style, you don't see L'Rell's breasts fully . . . . but yeah, "Klingon tits".

However, it's the only scene like this in all 4 seasons of Discovery, and there isn't anything like this in Picard. The cursing continues throughout both series, but it's mild and infrequent.

Some fans find these choices off-putting and have decided to avoid the new shows. To each their own, but . . . . I think the criticism are overwrought. That's okay, more Trek for me!
 


Hex08

Explorer
coincidentally, I picked up a month of Paramount+ to watch the Star Trecks and have to say I can’t watch them anymore either. I’m so tired of everything being made more ”adult” cause we’re not on broadcast TV. one Of the cool things with old star trek was the family friendly…not so much now. I mean, doesn’t bother me watching, I can, but no longer something I can watch with my 8 yr old. And it adds so little the gore, the Klingon tits, all that. Whatever, I get most people like it, I’m just why? Add’s nothing to story.
I tried to give Discovery a chance but after three seasons I gave up on it, although not for the reasons you mention (I will admit that Discovery isn't an all-ages show like prior Treks). I enjoy Picard but it isn't without it's flaws and has some of the same problems as Discovery. You should check out Lower Decks and Prodigy, they are both really good without all of the dark, broody nonsense. Lower Decks is a comedy and Prodigy is a kids cartoon and these two cartoons feel more like Star Trek than any of the live action stuff being released on Paramount+.
 
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jeremypowell

Adventurer
Ah! An excellent show I must rewatch soon.
The whole scene is one of my favorite bits ever—I would never have guessed Stewart could be so pitch-perfect in a comic role. (This was before Blunt Talk.) I guess I assume that every other Trek fan will have that scene memorized as I do, which of course is a silly assumption.

To be serious for a moment, I don't have anything original to say about the whole Paramount+ situation. But it's lousy, and I sympathize.
 

Smackpixi

Explorer
For clarity, I can still watch, but I can’t watch because I can’t watch with my 8 yr old like I could with TNG or Voyager. And just for no reason baiting I’ll say Voyager was the best one. All of the new ones have the same problem as the old ones in that super competent people make super stupid mistakes causing the episode issue then besuper competent again to solve.
 

Smackpixi

Explorer
Also wish for more monster/alien/weirdness of the week episodes rather than long story crap where crewmember in peril that’s standard now.
 

Smackpixi

Explorer
Also, boarding party is gonna be captain and first officer all the time, does this future navy not instead have marines for this purpose?
 


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