I'm Published! A Writer's POV

Samothdm said:
So, today I got an e-mail telling me that a d20 book I wrote was finally published today - in PDF format on RPGNow.

Congrats to you and everyone else that is recently published. My first, and so far only, published work was put out at the beginning of this year (see sig :) ) and it is a great feeling. I also felt that nervous feeling on awaiting the reviews. Really, just take it all in stride good and bad, and know that you did something few have the inclination for.

Best to luck on the book! :)
 

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The Grumpy Celt said:
That said, the rejections are disappointing. The silences – where you never hear anything back one way or the other – are worse because they simply leave you twisting in the wind. To clarify, I am not talking about a one-week silence/waiting period to hear back, but a silence of three or more months.

Being foolishly stubborn, I have not given up – I am simply venting.

I kinda know how you feel there. Not exactly. I'm not a writer, but a reviewer. And in my case, I was looking for review copies.

I contacted pretty much every d20 company in existance, plus every distributor I could find.

At first, I wasn't sure if I should ask. But eh - why not? I have written well over a 100 d20 reviews here, plus 75 more at RPG.net, and had managed to weasel myself onto Bastion Press's reviewers list. I've always reviewed their stuff promptly and reasonably well (and in some cases, was one of the only people to do so - I've only seen 2 other reviews of Arena and Forged, yet I know they have 20 people on their reviewers' list).

The reviews at RPG.net get read from 700 to 1700 times in the first week, which dwarfs any other site I could find that has a counter. So, it makes just as much sense, from a marketing standpoint, to send someone like me a copy, as someone at a site whose review only gets 150-200 reads (which my Geocities site manages to rival, amazingly enough), since it gets posted both here and at RPG.net net (albeit in slightly different forms usually, to fit a slightly different audience).

No reply at all. Except a snarky and apparently dishonest one from FFG.

Bummed me out. Again, they don't owe me anything. But eh. Still irks me :p

What also irks me, is that a few companies, based on reviews I had written of their products in the past, had also said they would put me on their list. But they never did. :p

What also irks me is that some employees of companies said "Oh, just talk to this person and they'll set you up". But of course, that wasn't the case.

But on the other hand, there have been a few nice cases. Like Dark Quest Games sent me some stuff out of the blue, which was especially cool as one of the books, Dweomercraft: Familiars, is one heck of a book, and I never would have heard about it. And Ed Cha also tried to get some review copies for me, which I really apreciated. And Charles Rice offered to send me a copy of Legends of Excalibur (which I actually wanted to buy, since I was looking forward to it for so long and wasn't disappointed when I did finally buy it). So it balances out somewhat :D

(OTOH, someplace will have to freeze over before I'll ever review another FFG book again, though I still buy them)
 

trancejeremy said:
I kinda know how you feel there. Not exactly. I'm not a writer, but a reviewer. And in my case, I was looking for review copies.

I contacted pretty much every d20 company in existance, plus every distributor I could find.)

You should try Pelgrane. They have had trouble finding reviewers who will actually write a review, and they are usually willing to send review copies to established reviewers such as yourself.

DB
 

Drifter Bob said:
Even now I don't have a clear idea in my head of who the major industry players are. I really have no idea which websties are the best for promoting a D20 book, but I found some people discussing the Primer here on ENworld and it seemed the friendliest site I found, so I stuck around here basically. For better or worse, this is where my marketing efforts end!

DB

I saw the initial thread on Primer of Magic on usenet and left it alone, for the same reasons you mentioned. The only reason I still look on newsgroups is to see if there is anything interesting at all. But to your question - a few places to announce new d20 or rpg related material.

Of course, ENWorld. Others include Gaming Report , Mortality.net , d20zines has recently started posting new d20 related material. These sites also have reviewers who can read your work and do reviews if requested. But I don't think you need that anymore from something else you said in the post.

Hope this helps you or others in the same boat.
 

die_kluge said:
I heard it at GenCon by industry insiders. They may have changed now, but I think when they were first starting out, and no one could figure out how they were putting out so many books all the time, that was how they were doing it. Obviously they're paying now, but at one time, I don't believe that they were.

Okay, I can pinch this one right now.

What you have to remember is, industry 'insiders' rarely know what they are talking about, especially at conventions. Some may also have reason to put other companies in a bad light - I just raise that as a possibility.

We have always paid our writers, we have always paid them promptly and _no_ one has ever written for free at Mongoose (that includes artists, incidentally).

How were we putting out x amount of books back then? Well, first off, I wrote the first batch and, second, many of you chaps were buying them, allowing us to bring in other writers.

Insiders. . . sheesh :)
 

trancejeremy said:
Very cool. I have to say, this also increases my respect for Mongoose. I mean, given they publish more d20 books than anyone else (more than WOTC), I would have expected them to ignore an unpublished author submitting an unsolicited idea. Props to them.

Really?

You have no idea how many new authors we have published over the years - and that number has leapt up with the introduction of Signs & Portents. :)
 

Drifter Bob said:
I used to have links in my sig but I couldn't figure out how to embed the URL into a link the way everyone else seems to (more incompetence) and I thought the tag looked kind of silly with the long web page addresses so I took it out.
Go to "My Account", then "Edit Signature", and enter the following text, except with all angle brackets (< >) replaced by square brackets ([ ]):
Bring the mysterious magic of the Dying Earth to your game with <url=http://www.dyingearth.com/article5.htm>The Primer of Practical Magic</url>
(Feel free to change the link, of course ;) )
 
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Allow me to hijack this thread for a second. Samothdm - your recounting inspired me to do my own. I just got published on the print side of the house, and thought a little info about that arena may prove interesting to some.

You can find my rambling here:
http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=92346

I know that I was bereft of answers when I started down the publishing road, and it makes sense to share what I've learned with others that may be in the same boat.

Thanks, again.

D
 

In the interest of keeping people up to date on my experiences:

The PDF book is currently #39 on the Top 100 Release this month on RPGNow (across all categories).

It is the #13 best seller in the Fantasy d20 Category category, and it is the #2 best seller in the d20 Class/Race Books category (second behind only The Quintessential Temptress).

It also got a little plug today at http://www.wilwheaton.net.

I'm also discussing potential future opportunities to write for the same publisher.

All in all, I'm pretty happy! :)
 


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