Immortals Handbook Epic Bestiary (now available)

[Upper_Krust]

Hello again matey!

Post 1000.

So that this post will actually be good for something, I'm going to try to guess at what the omnific abilities might be.

Infinite Str
Inf Dex
Inf Con
Inf Int
Inf Wis
Inf Cha
Inf speed
Inf effective HD/caster level
Inf fast healing/regeneration
Inf perception
Inf size/presence
Inf time control
Inf effective divine ranks
Inf foreknowledge
Inf skills

I give up.

Well, you have half right.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Howdy!

U_K!

74 - With modifications to the prereqs of feat 99, feat 99 does this.

Yes but one is druid based and the other monk based.

100 - This just seems silly. As an ability, its fine. When I read the feat, I just keep seeing "Druid Wildshape cheese" under the benifit heading. It doesn't say if you can take it more times, or if its effect stack. I have seen some pretty nasty druid builds that involve a torrential onslaught of attacks, and this feat would make every druid want to be a Hydra. (or in FR, theres a hydra variety, less tough to kill, but poisonous )
Epic Potency was in the Bestiary, and it is pretty basic.

I'll fix those problems. You on;ly have a total amount of venom per round. So if you have multiple attacks you dilute the potency.

The Metamartial feats, if you need space for more feats could become standard metamartial effects like the others.

I'll be cutting those from the main feat lists to free up a bit of room.

Overall theres good stuff for all the classes in there, but Druids (who start to make less and less sense in epic anyhow) look like they get some big boosts in there. (They can take almost all the feats in there, save the bard and sneak-attack ones)

I like as few prereqs as possible.

Regarding Druids, I understand the problem, I think their unique selling point at epic levels lies in special shapechanging abilities. I have some very interesting cosmic druid abilities like Chimerical, Doppelganger, Metamorph and Molymorph.

I have no problem with druids, its just that in *most* epic games, players pile on immunities so fast that the threats to the party fall under only 2 catagories: Epic spells, and Absurd instakill melee. Sadly, thats what said players use too.
Order of opperations, for me atleast in a game is a. - defense, b. - Epic spells for "defence/utility" (Ward vs Disjunction, Summon xxx Cr XXXXX creatures, etc.), c. - metamagic spam (GRRR Incantrix SMASH!), and d. - Fun feats (like Feat #1.)
It is likely that your system wont have problems like this, and I doubt every one does this, but in general, in any epic game I have been in, if you didn't follow the steps in order, you became inferior and were simply there to carry the wizard's loot.
Just my take, if you need em for prereqs and all, keep em. They just either sat as "Omni-Death-Omega" or "Oh, Ill pick that up.... Last. I need more Epic Potency so I can One-Shot-great-cleave a few Hecatoncheires"

If some classes don't seem to be useful at epic levels then that only means they could use a bit of work.

EDIT: How dare someone diss Three Weapon Fighting. Its so elite its crazy. I think the requirements need to be a bit higher though, perhaps.

I want to allow it at epic levels.

Heres a question: If I took three Weapon Fighting, do I get to fight with three weapons at once, or do I effectively get a third hand? Like could I fight with three Greatswords, a Longsword and a Greatsword, A greatsword and spiked shield, or just three longswords?

Three medium sized (longsword sized) weapons unless you have the Oversized weapon feat/Monkey Grip type stuff.

EDIT Part II: Would your Mantic Frenzy feat count as a "rage" ability? I just like the idea of a wizard getting so angry at some poor peasent that (with the use of the Intimidating Rage feat) he screams something akin to "I will flay the skin from your bones, and animate half of you as undead!" and having everyone around him simply cower in terror. The Intimidate skill only goes so far.

Its not really rage, more spell euphoria.

...More after I get my dinner - I am totally 'Lee Marvin' here.

 

[Servitor of Wrath]

Hello again matey!



Well, you have half right.

Is that half of what I have or half of what you have?

 

[GQuail]

Exactly, and what happens if you fail your cloud balance check. I think its more something you should either be able to do or not do.

To an extent, I agree with this: though one could argue simply having a high enough skill check basically assures this anyway. Still, having a swim speed and a high Swim score ain't the same thing, so I agree that giving the ability from other routes is a good idea.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey Servitor mate!

Is that half of what I have or half of what you have?

Half of what you have.

Come to think of it I don't actually have 25 decided upon yet though...

 

[historian]

Come to think of it I don't actually have 25 decided upon yet though...

Feel free to add more than 25 if you like.

Do they all stack?

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hiya matey!

Feel free to add more than 25 if you like.

Cheeky monkey!

I'll be lucky to make 200 divine, 100 cosmic, 50 trans and 25 Omnific.

At the moment I am sitting on roughly 160/80/40/20.

I have about another 20 divine and 10 cosmic waiting in the wings that may find their way in. Where the rest are coming from at this stage is a mystery.

Looking at the classes I seem to have pretty much all of them fairly well covered over the divine and cosmic abilities. I have between 3-6 divine abilities for each class and between 2-4 cosmic abilities for each class.

If anyone can think of some far out abilities they want to see classes have now is the time to talk. Although it might be better to wait until Monday until you see what I have. Chances are I probably already have 9 out of 10 ideas you would mention.

Do they all stack?

More or less.

 

[historian]

Cheeky monkey!

I'll be lucky to make 200 divine, 100 cosmic, 50 trans and 25 Omnific.

At the moment I am sitting on roughly 160/80/40/20.

That's very respectable.

I could try, but it's hard for me to imagine more than about 12-14 Omnific abilities.

I have about another 20 divine and 10 cosmic waiting in the wings that may find their way in. Where the rest are coming from at this stage is a mystery.

Somewhere beyond the 10th Dimension . . . . . .

More or less.

Cool, that makes CR extrapolations for High Lords smoother.

Hope you're getting some rest, seriously.

 

[Fieari]

Yeah, it'd be much easier to suggest ideas you don't have yet when first we've seen what you've got.

Do you have Robert Jordan style Baelfire in yet?


Hm. Omnific abilities stack. I guess that means that in a contest between high lords, the winner in a particular arena, say, an opposed grapple check, is the one with more Infinite Strength feats?

 

[Rhuarc]

Hey UK mate

Hope you can help me with a quick question about how PC wealth affects the Encounter Level of monsters.

Example:

Nightshade, Nightwalker = CR 16

+ PC wealth of level 16 = ?

Dunno if you have already some sort of formluar for adding PC wealth rather then NPC wealth, but I thought if someone could help me with this it would be you

Thanks in advance and btw, I love Ascension
I will change some minor things for my campaign but overall its awesome, can't wait for the finished product

Best regards