immortals handbook

Upper_Krust said:
So the effects of Divine Rank 1 would be roughly akin to ECL +16

Does that include the ECL adjustments for ability modifiers (which are +24, +18, +14, +14, +14, +14 for a total of +9.8 to CR)? Using your system, I came up with 11 for the quasi-deity (16.7 / 3 * 2).
 

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Tip of the Iceberg

Hi all! :)

Necropolis said:
Hi U_K :)
can you tell us some names of the most powerfull things in the books (like spells , monsters , magical items and so on .....)
and what is your favorite spell
Thanks

You mean to say that you can't wait for the previews on the website? :p

Anabstercorian said:
Yes! Give names for your faithful vassels to gnaw and worry like bones! My preciousss!

Bjorn Doneerson said:
Yeah, give us names!! Err...umm...Perhaps a name for one of those Omnific gifts you mentioned?

You guys are incorrigable. But my love is unconditional so...

Spells (likely to change a bit when I get the new spell system finished).

Requiem - Lets just say you don't want to be around when the music stops.

Commandment - Laying down the law

Alter-Ego - "Thor...meet Evil Thor."

Don't know if I have a favourite spell; but there is one called Excommunicate that I really like.

Magic Items

Exterminating (Weapon Ability) - When you really don't like a certain race.

Holy* Scion - Mortals get Holy Avengers; Gods get these.

*Yes I have all the alignment flavours.

Lashing (Weapon Ability) - Melee opponents at a distance. :D

Monsters

Unelemental - think along the lines of Umbral Blots but with something a bit more scary than that wimpy Disintegrating Touch to back them up.

Eidolon (Astral Shadow/Shadow-Lich) - "So thats what happens to a demilich when even the bones no longer remain."

Ancient Brethren - because WotC won't pull their finger out and detail the Ancient Baatorians.

Gifts

Heavy Handed (Divine Gift) - when you want to transcend base weapon damage.

Ascetic (Cosmic Gift) - Gain the Paragon Template but at what price...?

Supremacy (Omnific Gift) - You have your opponents power on top of your own.
 

Hi kreynolds mate! :)

kreynolds said:
Does that include the ECL adjustments for ability modifiers (which are +24, +18, +14, +14, +14, +14 for a total of +9.8 to CR)? Using your system, I came up with 11 for the quasi-deity (16.7 / 3 * 2).

DOH! :o

Its been so long since I last poured over the Divinity section in Deities & Demigods that I forgot all about the ability scores.

My mistake.

Divine Rank 1 should therefore grant ECL +22 (as WotC rate things that is).
 

Re: Tip of the Iceberg

You mean to say that you can't wait for the previews on the website? :p


No, duh! We're still waiting for it to be out yesterday.
:p

You guys are incorrigable. But my love is unconditional so...

err...incorrigable...(using dictionary) depraved? delinquent? unruly? I guess so, yeah.

Alter-Ego - "Thor...meet Evil Thor."

That sounds like fun.

Unelemental - think along the lines of Umbral Blots but with something a bit more scary than that wimpy Disintegrating Touch to back them up.

Owies!

Eidolon (Astral Shadow/Shadow-Lich) - "So thats what happens to a demilich when even the bones no longer remain."

Hmm that word's been running through my head recently.

Heavy Handed (Divine Gift) - when you want to transcend base weapon damage.

Did you hear about the holy man who refused novacaine when he had a tooth pulled? He wanted to transcend dental medication.

Ascetic (Cosmic Gift) - Gain the Paragon Template but at what price...? "

Very cool.

Supremacy (Omnific Gift) - You have your opponents power on top of your own.
Ultra cool.
 


Originally posted by Upper Krust
Eidolon (Astral Shadow/Shadow-Lich) - "So thats what happens to a demilich when even the bones no longer remain."

Awesome, always thought there should be this third step in the Lich chain. Now we need a vampire prince/king.

Ancient Brethren - because WotC won't pull their finger out and detail the Ancient Baatorians.

Well its about time....:D

Everything else sounds very cool as well.
 

Hi
a shadow lich ? i think that some pepole created shdow liches and they were not very high level , and all of their special abilities are not working in light
rge astral lich sounds better but i think that this isn't good for pc liches becuse no player will become a demi lich becuse you can't play as a demi lich , he just sits in his place and a pc won't do that
so i think that it's more for npc's
do you have something for normal liches ?

Thanks
 

Necropolis said:

Hi Necropolis mate! :)

Necropolis said:
a shadow lich ? i think that some pepole created shdow liches and they were not very high level , and all of their special abilities are not working in light

I wasn't going to call them Shadow-Liches; thats simply for your benefit, to clarify they are the unnatural progression from Demi-Lich.

Necropolis said:
rge astral lich sounds better

It will be called Eidolon (Astral Shadow).

A lot of the monsters in the IH have dual names in the same way you have Barbazu (Bearded Devil).

A more mythical name and a more common name.

Necropolis said:
but i think that this isn't good for pc liches becuse no player will become a demi lich becuse you can't play as a demi lich , he just sits in his place and a pc won't do that so i think that it's more for npc's do you have something for normal liches ?

Well I never really intended these creatures as Player Characters (though why not I suppose); however I would add that they are not stuck in one place in the same way as Demi-Liches.


I am reticent about revealing material because devoid of the whole, a single peice of a puzzle can seem underwhelming and easily misconstrued. The most obvious and contemporary example being the material for WotCs new campaign setting "Eberron" which a number of people have started tearing into for no apparent reason.
 

Hi again :)
well i think that if you are going to create them it's good but can a normal lich transform into one of them ?
becuse you see if a player lich want's to be more powerfull he needs to be a demi lich first and then this new type of lich so there is a way for a normal lich to be one of those Eidolon liches ?
maybe with unque rituals ?
and are you going to give the full processs for the transformation into that lich ?

and lich is the only choice for being a powerfull arcane spellcaster at higher level or that there is something else ?

Thanks
can't wait for this man :D
 


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