immortals handbook

[Upper_Krust]

Hey Yair mate!

I was just wondering, given the obscenly high CRs and (I presume) high levels, will the IH include guidelines for determining such a tall order of skill checks? Personally, I haven't got a clue what a DC 1,000 Knowledge (Nobility) or Sense Motive would mean, or how it would differ from DC 500 or even DC 50.

Yes. As well as trying to explain what exceptionally high mental ability scores mean.

Though to be fair there are likely to be feats, abilities or spells that accomplish the same things long before you arrive at such lofty skill scores.

Knowledge is one of those skills that should really be capped at a certain point. Once you have Encyclopedic knowledge of a subject its time to move on I feel.

Sense Motive will start to let you automatically second guess your opponents actions (of course the DC depends on the opponent).

 

[Kavon]

I can understand both points of this dilemma. I'd say not to agonize over that too much, since even a horde of low-level characters can overwhelm a high-level one...similar principle...though I do see the rationale for wanting a First One to be able to pu the smack down on an entire pantheon.

Exactly.

Why not make it so that a First One can put the smack down on an 'average' pantheon, but that a more powerful pantheon would have a better chance to stand against one.

It would be a similar situation as the hoard of low level characters beating down the higher level one. Just make it so that the hoard of low level characters would equal the more powerful pantheon, and the high level one the First One.
Since I don't know the power difference between a Greater Deity and a First One, I can't really say more than that about the matter.

 

[Revenge of the Bjorn]

Yo Krust, care to leak any info on philosophically wear various ranks may stand. Like what's an elder god's purpose in the universe? so on and so forth? And is there a specific rank for demiurgic beings?

 

[Upper_Krust]

Heu Kavon mate !

Why not make it so that a First One can put the smack down on an 'average' pantheon, but that a more powerful pantheon would have a better chance to stand against one.

Well I don't really see any Pantheon tackling a First One let alone actually defeating one.

It would be a similar situation as the hoard of low level characters beating down the higher level one. Just make it so that the hoard of low level characters would equal the more powerful pantheon, and the high level one the First One.

In such situations you have to remember the plateau that exists.

Since I don't know the power difference between a Greater Deity and a First One, I can't really say more than that about the matter.

To use a comic book analogy think of putting the Asgardians up against something like Eternity.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey Bjorn mate!

Yo Krust, care to leak any info on philosophically wear various ranks may stand.

Not really, no.

Like what's an elder god's purpose in the universe? so on and so forth?

You know to be honest I am sure I have posted rudimentary details of the cosmic gods sometime in the past.

But if people have forgotten then no point going into details again at this stage.

And is there a specific rank for demiurgic beings?

If by Demiurgic you mean Time Lords then yes, although I am contemplating tweaking the Eternal and Supernal hierarchies at the moment.

 

[Kavon]

Heu Kavon mate!

Hey U_K

Well I don't really see any Pantheon tackling a First One let alone actually defeating one.

Hmm... Ok. *wouldn't know*

In such situations you have to remember the plateau that exists.

Well, yeah. That's true.

To use a comic book analogy think of putting the Asgardians up against something like Eternity.

Ah, ok. I see the difference.
Are there any stages inbetween? (I don't remember the list you posted a while back ). If not, then there probably should be? (if there are, just ignore little ol' me ).

 

[Roman]

Hello UK!

I don't suppose you could tell us what the subdivisions of the Sidereal and Eternal groups are? It's not like you would be telling us what they do, so you would not spoil the surprise in the book - you would merely pique our interest still further (as if it was not piqued enough already ). I would ask for the Supernal subdivisions too, but I don't really expect you to type out a list of 72...

Also, what is the difference if any, between Timelords and Elder Gods and Supernals? I cannot see Elder Gods or Timelords on your list, but I remember you mentioning them a long, long time ago...

 

[Roman]

Oh, and two more if you don't mind.

1) What are demiurgic beings?

2) Do you have Cosmic Gods are not in your hierarchy, but you do mention them. You have me confused.

Thanks.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey U_K

Hiya mate!

Ah, ok. I see the difference.
Are there any stages inbetween? (I don't remember the list you posted a while back ). If not, then there probably should be? (if there are, just ignore little ol' me ).

Oh okay then.

Immortals (Divine Gods)
Demi-deity
Lesser Deity
Intermediate Deity
Greater Deity

Sidereals (Cosmic Gods)
Elder One
Old One
First One
High One

Eternals (Omnific Gods)


Supernals (Metempiric Gods)

 

[Roman]

Sidereals (Cosmic Gods)
Elder One
Old One
First One
High One

Thanks!

Eternals (Omnific Gods)


Supernals (Metempiric Gods)

Come on U_K, you know you want to tell us the ranks (well, at least we know we want you to ).