Starman said:
Yeah, except that all of those save the submarine and the "face melting ghosts" come from what is almost universally agreed to be the weakest entry amongst the first three movies. A lot of people loved Raiders and Last Crusade, but detested Temple of Doom precisely because of the over-the-top nature of much of it (well, and Kate Capshaw).
That response, to me, just serves to further reinforce that you are in denial about the prior movies.
I am rewatching them all right now, and every single one has so many impossible, outrageous, over the top scenes that the listing could go on for days. It's paced at about every 15 minutes you get an impossibility. And for you to try and deny that is the case and pretend it has something to do with just one particular movie is a crock. Go back and watch them, looking for impossibilities, and you will almost constantly see them.
The scene with the Ark at then end of Raiders works precisely because it has been built up throughout the movie as a Holy Object With Awesome Powers TM and we didn't have anything too groan inducing in the rest of the movie. The submarine hitchhiking may cause an eye-roll, but is easily forgotten because the movie as a whole is incredibly awesome.
The submarine is a TYPICAL scene for all three movies, not abnormal. Are you seriously trying to defend these movies as believable and the non-belivable moments as just minor aberrations in the one movie you didn't like as much or easily fogotten scenes in movies you did like? Come on now, that's just not a defensible position. It's fine that you like some and didn't like others, and it's fine that you didn't like this newest movie, but it's simply not credible to say that Raiders or Crusade were "believable" movies.
For me the problem with Crystal Skull wasn't believability, anyway...
Then I wasn't responding to you, since my whole post was to those who didn't like it based on believability.
Though the Tarzan scene, to one extent or another, is in all the movies (that was the joke...that his dad always does that, in an unbelievable way. The number of swinging on stuff to travel scenes in the prior movies is nearly uncountable). Nor is the driving truck off the cliff scene in any way different from all the other movies...there are far less likely scenes in the prior movies.
Right now in the copy of Crusade I am watching an enemy boat just exploded between two other boats because they were perfectly timed to let the good guys get through, but the enemy boat get squeezed and somehow EXPLODE due to the closing boats, only to have yet another enemy boat be boarded at high speeds, timed perfectly to be crushed by the spinning turbine blades of a bigger boat, only to be rescued at the perfect moment by another good guy boat. And that is what just happened to be on at the time I am typing this message. I recall later there will be a scene where an armed unoccupied bi-plane is detached from a blimp, a crash, crashing an enemy plane into a tunnel and amazingly having that plane's cockpit continue to race down the tunnel for a sigh gag, and finally the crashing of another enemy plane using an umbrella and birds. Earlier there were about 10 impossible motorcycle crashes similar to the chase scene you were referring to in this new movie, followed by a chance meeting with Hitler, who autographs the diary that leads to the holy grail, said grail retrieved while fleeing nazi's armed with tanks traded for in the desert in exchange for a single car, etc...
The movies are FILLED with impossible scenes. You're in denial if you think they were not.
