Mouseferatu
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Olgar Shiverstone said:
It doesn't sink. It almost crashes into Earth, though.
Don't any of you watch Dr. Who? I mean, really...
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull [spoilers]
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It doesn't sink. It almost crashes into Earth, though.
Don't any of you watch Dr. Who? I mean, really...
Mustrum_Ridcully
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Well, I know who doesn't - too many fellow Germans. The show apparently wasn't a success here.Mouseferatu said:
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I've just come back from seeing #4 and (apparently unlike many people here) I loved it.
I'd avoided this thread and so the reveal about Mutts mum was great, as was his parentage. I like the way that Mutt presumably also chose to name himself after the family dog (nice nod to #3). I loved the action scenes, the chases, the double and triple crosses and the denouement.
I still place Raiders first (of course), but I put this on a par with Grail, personally. The utter drek which is Temple of Drek comes so far below the others that it is dead to me. The last time I tried to watch it I turned it off halfway through when it became clear it was actually a 'Short Round' film which included Indiana as comic relief and someone to be saved.
I like the fact that in #4 Indy is the top man again; he is the hero, not the sidekick or anything else. I also loved the interplay between him and
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I'd avoided this thread and so the reveal about Mutts mum was great, as was his parentage. I like the way that Mutt presumably also chose to name himself after the family dog (nice nod to #3). I loved the action scenes, the chases, the double and triple crosses and the denouement.
I still place Raiders first (of course), but I put this on a par with Grail, personally. The utter drek which is Temple of Drek comes so far below the others that it is dead to me. The last time I tried to watch it I turned it off halfway through when it became clear it was actually a 'Short Round' film which included Indiana as comic relief and someone to be saved.
I like the fact that in #4 Indy is the top man again; he is the hero, not the sidekick or anything else. I also loved the interplay between him and
Marion
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Brown Jenkin
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While it did well at the boxoffice, it seems that the women got thier revenge this weekend. Only one week at number 1 for Indy and company.
Darth Shoju
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While I agree with RangerWickett that the writing could have been tighter (particularly with the whole alien corpse aspect -- there's that old saying in writing: if you mention a gun in the beginning, it better go off by the end), I also agree with Mistwell that it is unfair to harp on the implausibilities of Crystal Skull while giving a pass to the ones from the previous films. It's funny that people seem to have issues with the Tarzan swinging and the monkeys. I didn't even blink about those things (in fact I thought they were funny). Maybe it's because we've seen both in previous films; I mean, Indy swings everywhere (I guess it's fine when it's a bullwhip instead of a vine?), and there was that monkey from Raiders that seemed particularly bright.
Overall I thought this was a pretty fun movie. It wasn't the best of the series certainly, and some of the elements weren't to my taste (I would also have preferred to not see the aliens or their ship, and I would have liked to see Indy doing more of the ass-kicking instead of Mutt), but it was still good for an afternoon's entertainment.
I don't really go by ratings systems myself, so I'll just give it a dagger up:
Overall I thought this was a pretty fun movie. It wasn't the best of the series certainly, and some of the elements weren't to my taste (I would also have preferred to not see the aliens or their ship, and I would have liked to see Indy doing more of the ass-kicking instead of Mutt), but it was still good for an afternoon's entertainment.
I don't really go by ratings systems myself, so I'll just give it a dagger up:
Someone
Adventurer
Suffice to say, the good parts are those copied and pasted from previous films (and thus completely foreseeable - who didn't know the bag tough guy was for a gruesome death after he and Indy beat each other while on some improbable location?) The new parts were bad, all of them.
Arnwyn
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Just saw it last night. I found it... adequate. Definitely the worst of the four, and vastly inferior even to Temple of Doom, it was still all right.
I found myself bored through a surprising amount of it, and found that much of the first half was better than much of the second half. Even John William's socre was uninspired compared to the previous movies.
The cinematography and motion picture 'style', though, was fantastic and they made sure it really felt like an Indiana Jones movie. And while I thought the music wasn't as good as it could have been, there were still great moments, including the little musical riffs during the sequences that showed things from movies 1 and 3, such as when
. Cool stuff.
So mediocre, and I don't think I'd care to ever see it again (unlike Temple of Doom, or even Star Wars Ep II or III), but it was good enough when I saw it.
I found myself bored through a surprising amount of it, and found that much of the first half was better than much of the second half. Even John William's socre was uninspired compared to the previous movies.
The cinematography and motion picture 'style', though, was fantastic and they made sure it really felt like an Indiana Jones movie. And while I thought the music wasn't as good as it could have been, there were still great moments, including the little musical riffs during the sequences that showed things from movies 1 and 3, such as when
the ark made it's cameo appearance, when Marion was first shown, and when they showed the picture of Henry Jones Sr
So mediocre, and I don't think I'd care to ever see it again (unlike Temple of Doom, or even Star Wars Ep II or III), but it was good enough when I saw it.
I saw it Sunday. I'd rank it above Temple of Doom, but below Holy Grail. Raiders is the best of the 4, of course.
The "science-fictional" trappings of this movie were quite different from the "fantasy" trappings of the previous 3, but that didn't bother me. Indiana Jones is very Pulpy in feel, and that's what Pulp is like - a genre melting pot.
The "science-fictional" trappings of this movie were quite different from the "fantasy" trappings of the previous 3, but that didn't bother me. Indiana Jones is very Pulpy in feel, and that's what Pulp is like - a genre melting pot.
Darth K'Trava
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Villano said:
Jedi don't have the ability to "Detect Evil"?
Orius
Unrepentant DM Supremacist
Just saw it earlier, and time for my commentary. Going to add spoilers anyway, since they're in the thread.
It was pretty good. It still felt like Indiana Jones, even though it got bumped to the 50s. But I have no problem with that, Harrison Ford's in his 60s now, and trying to pretend he's only a few years older than he is in The Last Crusade would be ridiculous. Besides, the 50's B-movie angle Lucas decided to go with here works. And Russians worked nearly as well as Nazis for the bad guys.
Kudos to the various reviewers and publicity that didn't spoil the fact that
I wasn't surprised at all when that was actually revealed, since it seemed pretty obvious anyway, but it was good that the fact wasn't trumpeted beforehand.
Who knows?
Favorite scene would have to be the sand pit, definitely. Indy starts by
And Mutt as a nickname is itself interesting given [sblock]the end of The Last Crusade:
So the
Only thing that was really really dumb
It was pretty good. It still felt like Indiana Jones, even though it got bumped to the 50s. But I have no problem with that, Harrison Ford's in his 60s now, and trying to pretend he's only a few years older than he is in The Last Crusade would be ridiculous. Besides, the 50's B-movie angle Lucas decided to go with here works. And Russians worked nearly as well as Nazis for the bad guys.
Kudos to the various reviewers and publicity that didn't spoil the fact that
Mutt is Indy's son.
And it also sets things up to possibly continue the franchise with him, with perhaps hints to that end at the end of the movie when the old fedora rolls to his feet.
Favorite scene would have to be the sand pit, definitely. Indy starts by
telling Marion to get off Mutt's back for quitting school, then after learning Mutt's his son, he screams, "Why the hell didn't you make him finish school?! Then Mutt rescues them from the pit with a big ass snake. That is kind of silly when you think about it (that snake would have been damn pissed), but I laughed my ass off when he turned around and they show the snake for the first time and then he tosses it to Indy.
And Mutt as a nickname is itself interesting given [sblock]the end of The Last Crusade:
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So the
Ark of the Covenant is stashed in Area 51. Why am I not surprised? I dunno, it does kind of weaken the end of Raiders a little bit, you know lessening the whole impact of the Ark being placed in a non-descript box and being buried deep in some unknown warehouse somewhere (plus everything about Area 51 is ridiculous; I suspect the American government uses it as a red herring, since all the conspiracies about it make it absolutely useless for said conspiracies). But when Irina commented about all of America's sercets being stored there though, and the score gives us a cue using the Ark theme, I was expecting the Ark to show up.
Only thing that was really really dumb
was nuking the fridge. Yeah, I don't care how much lead is in that thing, there's no way Indy's going to survive a blast at ground zero, and then live long enough to growl at kids in a museum in the early 90's.
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