D&D General Inherently Evil?

[Umbran]

Why are you being so forceful, Mr. Moderator? Red text? Did I offend someone?

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[Morrus]

Why are you being so forceful, Mr. Moderator? Red text? Did I offend someone?

Please refrain from challenging moderation in-thread.

 

[Vaalingrade]

I'll take your word for it as I no longer have the 3e MM. I like the 3.5 version better then. Negative energy should make the things that are created with it, evil.

Shouldn't positive energy be 'good' then instead of cancer-sploding people and making armoires that beat you like you stole something?

And speaking of consistency, shouldn't all the other Neutral elements also have aligned effects like fire being Chaos and Earth being Lawful? Because again, by canon Negative and Positive energies are entirely neutral elements that are just as much building blocks as water and air.

 

[QuentinGeorge]

Isn't the point of the Mythos (justifying owning a lot of tentacles and 'different people are monsters') that they're so far beyond us they care nothing about us as we care nothing for ants or microbes and are thus beyond our morality

But I would argue that’s what “inherently evil” means. Operating on a completely different morality. Otherwise it is nonsense.

 

[Vaalingrade]

But I would argue that’s what “inherently evil” means. Operating on a completely different morality. Otherwise it is nonsense.

If evil is removed from morality, what's in the 'evil' slot in the actual morality system?

 

[Oofta]

If evil is removed from morality, what's in the 'evil' slot in the actual morality system?

Does it matter? Alignment is just a tool for the DM. It's something that helps th run the monsters.

 

[Vaalingrade]

Does it matter? Alignment is just a tool for the DM. It's something that helps th run the monsters.

That's so far from the discussion it's being forced into that the light will take ten thousand years to reach it.

 

[Oofta]

That's so far from the discussion it's being forced into that the light will take ten thousand years to reach it.

If a monsters actions will all be interpreted as evil, as far as the game is concerned they are evil.

As for the insult, sorry if us mere mortals don't understand the depth of your intellectual might.

 

[EzekielRaiden]

People were arguing that it was an official rule that casting a [Tag] spell was a Tag act, not recognizing the actual rule then houseruling otherwise.

And this is exactly what I mean when I refer to different people using the same rules differently.

It's NOT house-ruling. It's people straight-up claiming that if you don't treat every [Alignment] spell as an [Alignment] act, you're Doing It Wrong or you're the one house-ruling. Or others claiming exactly as you do. And there is textual support for both things, even in a single edition.

 

[Oofta]

And this is exactly what I mean when I refer to different people using the same rules differently.

It's NOT house-ruling. It's people straight-up claiming that if you don't treat every [Alignment] spell as an [Alignment] act, you're Doing It Wrong or you're the one house-ruling. Or others claiming exactly as you do. And there is textual support for both things, even in a single edition.

An edition that was written more than a couple decades ago had some details that some people interpreted differently.

Still not sure how that affects the concept of alignment or what it has to do with the current version of the game.