Invisibility - AoO?

[tennyson]

If I were to take a 5' step, cast invisibility and then run away, would that draw an AoO? Under the normal ruleset, I know it would....but how would the person taking the AoO know that the invisible target is moving away?

My apologies if this has been asked before. Thanks in advance for your comments!

 

[KarinsDad]

Invisibility gives total concealment.

If you have total concealment, you do not draw AoOs.

Also, you cannot do what you wanted to do in the same round due to the 5' step of movement. You could, however, take a 5' step and cast invisibility in round x and then run away in round x+1.

 

[irdeggman]

If I were to take a 5' step, cast invisibility and then run away, would that draw an AoO? Under the normal ruleset, I know it would....but how would the person taking the AoO know that the invisible target is moving away?

My apologies if this has been asked before. Thanks in advance for your comments!

Unless you are casting a Quickened spell you can't do all of that in a single round anyway.

Taking a 5 ft step - no AoO

Casting a spell in a non-threatened square - no AoO

Moving from a non-threatened square - no AoO

You cannot take a 5ft step if you do any other type of movement in that round - which is why all three actions can't be done in the same round, normally.

 

[Plane Sailing]

I wonder if your question could best be rephrased

"Can I cast invisibility defensively and then move away, without incurring an AoO?".

That would be a legal set of actions, you'd want to make a DC17 Concentration check to successfully cast the spell defensively and then at the very least any AoO has to face the 50% miss chance for a concealed target.

Personally I'd allow the wizard to make a move silently opposed by the other guys listen - if he is successful, he has crept away without his opponent noticing, if the opponent hears him he gets the AoO.

Cheers

 

[MarkB]

I wonder if your question could best be rephrased

"Can I cast invisibility defensively and then move away, without incurring an AoO?".

That would be a legal set of actions, you'd want to make a DC17 Concentration check to successfully cast the spell defensively and then at the very least any AoO has to face the 50% miss chance for a concealed target.

Personally I'd allow the wizard to make a move silently opposed by the other guys listen - if he is successful, he has crept away without his opponent noticing, if the opponent hears him he gets the AoO.

Cheers

Whether the wizard creeps away or runs full tilt once he's cast the spell, he doesn't suffer an AoO for that movement, since you can't make AoOs against creatures with total concealment, even if you know which square they occupy.

 

[KarinsDad]

Personally I'd allow the wizard to make a move silently opposed by the other guys listen - if he is successful, he has crept away without his opponent noticing, if the opponent hears him he gets the AoO.

Not according to RAW:

You can’t execute an attack of opportunity against an opponent with total concealment, even if you know what square or squares the opponent occupies.

 

[moritheil]

Whether the wizard creeps away or runs full tilt once he's cast the spell, he doesn't suffer an AoO for that movement, since you can't make AoOs against creatures with total concealment, even if you know which square they occupy.

Uh, it's not a legal set of actions because the wizard can't 5' step, take a standard action to cast invisibility, and then take a move action to run away all in the same round.

 

[Nail]

Uh, it's not a legal set of actions because the wizard can't 5' step, take a standard action to cast invisibility, and then take a move action to run away all in the same round.

MarkB wasn't contesting that point, moritheil.

 

[KarinsDad]

MarkB wasn't contesting that point, moritheil.

Yup. Reading is fundamental!

 

[Nail]

Spoiler

Try telling that to my chemistry students!