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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 02, 2001 01:15 PM
The Chosen had not really expected the devils and demons to answer the summons.
But they did, both groups.
The Chosen seem inordinately pleased by this, even the sulking Chosen from Waterdeep, and the
Chosen from Silverymoon smiles at the new arrivals.
Then the Lady speaks:
Lord Iuz, your power is recognized and your statements are taken in the utmost seriousness.
We are considering every word you have spoken.
Ambassador of the Devils, your Lordship, we understand the obligations that you are under, and the
rules you must abide by.
Everything you have said is recorded, and is being duly considered.
However, we still await certain tardy emissaries and ambassadors.
When they arrive, you shall know why we have summoned you, and then all will be made clear.
Please exercise patience. The wait will not be much longer.
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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 02, 2001 01:27 PM
The following people and beings are now in the Court of the Chosen:
The ambassador of the Technomancy
The ambassador of the Humanoid Alliance
The ambassador of the Phaerimm / Aboleth Alliance.
The ambassador of the City of Shade.
The ambassador of the Faerie.
The ambassador of the Elven Alliance (the tiny remnants of it.)
The ambassador of the Drow (self appointed.)
The ambassador (s) of the NeoIllithids.
The ambassador of the Dwarves.
The ambassador of the Gnomes.
The ambassador of the Halflings.
The ambassador of the Kender (who has decided the NeoIllithid are a great and noble race, and his
friends.)
A number of ambassadors from Zakhara.
The ambassador of the Tuigan.
The ambassador of Maztica.
The ambassador of the Devils.
Iuz the Old, ambassador of Himself and the Demons.
(I miss anyone?)
The following ambassadors have still not shown up:
The ambassador of the Deep Illithid (that is, one of the actual Illithid themselves)
The ambassador of Bran's Druids.
The ambassador of Zouron's Magocracy
The ambassador of the Scro / Gith.
The ambassador of the Githyanki.
The ambassador of the Defilers.
The ambassador of the Thri-Kreen.
The ambassador of the Athian Immigrants.
Any ambassadors from Oerth other than Iuz.
The Chosen send another summons to those ambassadors who have not yet shown
They also ask those present to send messengers to the missing people in question, asking them to
get to the Court so the proceedings may continue.
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Phasmus
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posted December 02, 2001 01:30 PM
*The eldest of the three Neoillithid speaks, his low resonant voice echoing through the minds of all
present. His tendrils writhe hypnotically in time with his voice.*
We speak neither for nor against the Humanoids, the Technomancy or the Elves... yet. Rather, we wish
to address Forrester of the Humanoids, directly.
We see, Forrester, that you are powerful. That from your, if we may be so bold, humble beginnings...
you have risen as few in history have.
We call upon you now, not to confess, not to be punished, not even to acknowledge that you have
done wrong... But simply to forgive.
For the all the elves have done... they have been punished. Punished as severely as any race can be.
Not just their lives, but all that they were, has been obliterated. You have wiped them away, Forrester.
It is not a question of the elves changing their ways. They are gone. Those that return will not be the
same... will not be allowed to be the same. Let them start again... Let the elves of Toril return, not as
enemies, but as friends of the Humanoids.
You will say, perhaps, that you mistrust, or even loathe the sight of elves... As they are likely to say of
you. Other than counterproductive mutual hatred... unfounded in present time... We see no reason it
could not be done.
Our former race, the Illithid, hate all but themselves as a matter of course. They will not, can not, let
go of that... And it brings them nothing but darkness, frustration and misery... though they are loathe
to admit it. We beg you Forrester, do not travel that road.
If you are even willing to consider the idea... we will help as best we can.
And we extend the same offer to the elves.
*The speaker pauses for a long time, psionically sighs, and continues.*
As for the faerie... Though we feel your desire to be rid of them is similarly... outdated. We doubt they
would be willing to return as things stand, even if invited.
It is known that the weave of Toril is dying... We perceive, Forrester, that you do not care if the world
dies, as long as you are gone when it happens. That you advocate waiting... and seeing what can be
done in the future. It is too dangerous to assume that something can be done, we believe. Your
proposal, then, is that Toril be left a cold, desolate husk, after the weave comes unraveled? That all
who wish to survive, simply migrate to another world?
For the process to begin again.
There are many who do, and will, love this world... and who would die before leaving. You may call
them fools, if you wish...
Or... perhaps... you understand.
In any case, we suggest a compromise. A mere planar connection to the realm of Faerie may be
sufficient... Even now, our people are attempting to develop planar gates that will allow the
transference of planar essence, while preventing the transfer of all else. The realm of Faerie will have
nothing to fear from incursions by Toril... And as the magic of the realm seeps into Toril, the weave will
be restored, and maintained. As an added measure of security, the gates can be deactivated from
either side, but only activated by mutual agreement of both sides.
Hopefully, when we are successful, the realm of Faerie would agree to their installation *nods at the
Blood Jester*, and the Chosen would be willing to provide an extra measure of security... by acting as
their custodians here.
That is all we have to say. For the time being.
*The Neoillithid speaker sits, and gazes calmly out over the crowd.*
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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 02, 2001 01:35 PM
All of the Chosen break into a quiet applause, after the NeoIllithid speaker has finished.
Then, they look at the Humanoid emissary (Forrester) and the Faerie emissary (Blood Jester), and
also to the Elven emissary (whoever would speak for him.)
The Chosen from Silverymoon (who apparently is now the Speak for the Chosen) asks softly:
Will you make answer?
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Forrester
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posted December 02, 2001 01:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Phasmus:
We call upon you now, not to confess, not to be punished, not even to acknowledge
that you have done wrong... But simply to forgive.
For the all the elves have done... they have been punished. Punished as severely as
any race can be. Not just their lives, but all that they were, has been obliterated. You
have wiped them away, Forrester.
...
Let the elves of Toril return, not as enemies, but as friends of the Humanoids.
As for the faerie... Though we feel your desire to be rid of them is similarly... outdated.
We doubt they would be willing to return as things stand, even if invited.
It is known that the weave of Toril is dying... We perceive, Forrester, that you do not
care if the world dies, as long as you are gone when it happens. That you advocate
waiting... and seeing what can be done in the future. It is too dangerous to assume that
something can be done, we believe. Your proposal, then, is that Toril be left a cold,
desolate husk, after the weave comes unraveled? That all who wish to survive, simply
migrate to another world?
First, on behalf of the Humanoid Alliance, I salute you, and your people. For if any race has changed
more than we have in the last half-century, it is yourselves. In the last forty years, you have proven
yourselves to be worthy friends of the Technomancy -- and thus, if I may be so bold, friends to us.
However, with all due respect, you are wrong on most counts.
Forgiveness should not be free. Rather, it should only come when they who have done wrong are ready
to ask for it -- otherwise, it is wasted. Let us wait to find what the other elven representatives have to
say, as well as the spirit of their dead Queen. If there is nothing but what came from the
representative of the Drow -- talk of curses and blood oaths and vendetta -- then we would be fools to
forgive them, no? An elf's memory is quite long. I doubt that they are ready to forgive US for what we
did to them after a mere 40 years.
As regards the Weave, you have misunderstood me. We are interested in the gradual weakening of
the Weave, but we are studying it fully and we plan to find a way to heal it. We are powerful in both
psionics and technology (though not quite as technologically advanced as our friends, the
Technomancy), and we will work with all who will work with us to find a cure.
You should not have taken my jest about Warp Drive so seriously. I fully believe that within one or two
hundred years, with work and diligence, we will have found a way to heal the Weave. That solution will
come in *PLENTY* of time, will it not? Talk of bringing in the Fae, when the Fae loathe us for what they
think we did to Toril, would be foolhardy. We do not have the will to fight another war, and that is
exactly what I am afraid would happen.
Now . . . this plan of yours to bring a connection between them and us . . . if it were 100% foolproof,
then it might be a possibility. We would have to inspect your plans, test them, find whether the Fae
were agreeable to it, and so on. I see no rush, though.
And given that the last time we talked with the Fae, they demanded that in return for their help, we
stop ALL TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCE, I doubt they are going to be so reasonable as you think.
But we will see. Let them speak, and we will see.
Forrester
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Phasmus
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posted December 02, 2001 01:57 PM
*The old Neoillithid nods*
Naturally... any such attempt at reconciliation between the humanoids and the elves would require the
effort and commitment of both sides.
Remember, right or wrong,... from the perspective of the elves... it is you who needs to be forgiven.
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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 02, 2001 01:59 PM
I need Blood Jester's reply.
I need him to speak for both the Faerie and for the Elven Ambassador (arrived from the asteroid
where he was hiding.)
The drow ambassador sneers at the emissary of the Humanoids (Forrester), and comments:
You Humanoids are constantly talking big: you always did.
And it always ends the same way, with you kneeling and groveling before the power of Lolth, begging
for us to restrain our whip hands.
The drow arose from the ashes of the Crown War in a far bigger way than you ever did from your
Seven Year War, and we went on to become THE pre-eminent elven - if one would use such a term -
power.
The surface world would have been ours, had Queen Lolth commanded it.
Only by her decision to restrain us were you allowed to remain free, and to wreak the havoc you have
caused.
We will study your Technomagic, and we will improve on it.
We will acquire your nuclear weapons, and your psionic abilities, and all of your powers, to be put to
the use of Queen Lolth.
At this point, the Chosen from Silverymoon looks at the drow emissary, and says quietly:
Be silent.
And, the drow emissary ... shuts up.
The young lady looks over the assemblage, and frowns, then says sharply:
We require the presence of the DEEP ILLITHID emissary.
Now.
And we expect one of their own to come this time, and not Thralls.
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Forrester
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posted December 02, 2001 02:08 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith:
The drow ambassador sneers at the emissary of the Humanoids (Forrester), and
comments:
You Humanoids are constantly talking big: you always did.
And it always ends the same way, with you kneeling and groveling before the power of
Lolth, begging for us to restrain our whip hands.
All I can say is this:
Now that all of the white meat is gone, it's good to at least have some dark meat left.
Forrester
Peacemaker
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Rhialto the
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posted December 02, 2001 02:27 PM
Rhialto signals Forrester.
Excuse me, but my question seems to be unanswered. Now, did you not attack the elves with the
intent of destroying the entire species?
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Forrester
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posted December 02, 2001 02:31 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Rhialto the Marvellous:
Rhialto signals Forrester.
Excuse me, but my question seems to be unanswered. Now, did you not attack the
elves with the intent of destroying the entire species?
Your questions are of little interest to me. It should be apparent to the most retarded gully dwarf what
our intent was, and why we had to do what we did. If you still do not understand, I fail to see how
further explanations will be helpful.
Forrester
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Rhialto the
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posted December 02, 2001 02:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Forrester:
Your questions are of little interest to me. It should be apparent to the most retarded
gully dwarf what our intent was, and why we had to do what we did. If you still do not
understand, I fail to see how further explanations will be helpful.
Forrester
Peacemaker
Rhialto smiles and nods.
Excellent. I'm glad that this is clear.
Rhialto then signals the Chosen.
It would seem to me that the Humanoid ambassador has publically confessed his culpability in the
death of the elves. What's more as he is dealing with devils at this very moment, I think you can
declare them guilty of that charge as well and end their section of trial.
Rhialto here takes a magisterial stance.
After all, their guilt is clear. They've made no effort to disprove the charges, or show any form of
repentence, but continue to blame the elves for what were the Humanoid actions. Further, I would like
to state that the Humanoids share a portion of the blame in the Cataclysm , as it would have never
happened had they not stubbornly pushed against Evermeet, soley responsible for the damaging of
the Weave which resulted from the elves' deaths, and thus are also partially responsible for the death
of millions of the Psionics' League who perished repairing it.
With that, Rhialto gives a slight bow.
Of course, this is all my humble opinion, as an uninvolved bystander, from another world.
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Forrester
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posted December 02, 2001 03:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by johnbrown:
Iuz:
"Now, that all of that has been cleared up, let us move on to more important matters.
I, Iuz, provided some small services for some of the factions of that war, and I have
yet to be fully compensated for those services. If you, The Chosen, are truly seeking
justice, may I suggest that you use your powers to provide me with some, and compel
those parties to make good on the arrangement we had."
Iuz, you provided some small services for us, and you were duly compensated. We *did* provide you
some small technological advances; whether or not you have employed them or used them in Oerth is
unknown to me. As the Devils know, we Humanoids keep our word.
Forrester
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zouron
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posted December 02, 2001 05:27 PM
*appears in person by the entrance to the court and speaks softly*
I hope this meeting is not all closed yet?
*with these words zouron steps in wearing a grey wizard robe, which he dust off lightly*
I hear I have been accussed of.. aiding in the total destruction of elves, this point I like to agree but
first of all, I will state that I willingly submit to the decision of this court.
Now I am not the speaker that many of these fine gentlemen and ladies... and others are, not at all!
indeed I am hardly a ruler though I rule a nation, my devotion is without question towards magic in
every aspect of it. This said I also believe that a prospering people provide the most resources for
increasing magic in every way.
Technology as I have in the war dealt with many times, has been a new area for the knowledge of
magic and the creation of many helpful as well as destructive and even some very pointless spells,
and even more tomes, especially through the creation of the printing press, has now been created.
The was as I see it started dear members of the court as a desire to destroy technology, to me
technology is an advancement, and thus it should be approved, as advancing a society means giving it
more resources and a larger knolwedge base, so I had to side against this of course. During the war I
had many different alliance, but many should note that I been very intent on getting resources and
better the ways of those I ruled, even providing security in ways I could, while using lifeless
animations, and those damned as defenders of this realm to protect the realm devoted to advancing
all magic. My hoice of servants though I will not defend as this is hardly the point of this trial.
Continuing to the real core of this case as I see and remember it was the final battle which Mr.
Forester undertook to completely destroy and kill all elves. Now this was indeed tragic, and you might
wonder why I actually did help him here, first understand I had not as great power I could make a big
difference on either side, and since I am a man of different ideal then the elves, in fact I think they
would find my choice rather distateful, I had long ago sided with the humanoids armies. But back to
the final battle, I records proving the my main effort in this was to smuggle as many elves to safety
while there was still time, and these elves was treated well, protected even led back when it was safe.
Forester might remember een that I found him in lack of intelligence for finishing off the elves. When
I and my people returned so did the elves we had saved, or captured or whatever you might call it. No
I say that I aided Forester merely to be able to save as many souls as possible, both to save the
magic, and also to save the knowleedge they provide and potiental they provide.
*sighs and then finds a seat sitting down* I will answer what questions you might have, and again I will
lay my punishment in your hands chosen of the magical goddess.
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Alone is something we all are
only far away voices breaks the silence
whom wish to escape
this labyrinth of loneliness
we fumble our way, but finds nothing
because here are no walls
only the fear's angst
keeps us apart
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Forrester
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posted December 02, 2001 05:39 PM
Zouron, welcome! It has been a long time.
Thank you much for what assistance you provided -- and you are correct in saying that both you and
the Technomancy were less than thrilled with my desire to crush Evermeet completely and totally. The
taking of Evermeet was accomplished mostly by my forces, the Gith, and the Devils; you and the
Technomancy had small roles, if that.
I think that in retrospect, it is obvious that it needed to be done, but the matter is of little import now.
And I promise you this -- if the Chosen choose to punish you, it is certain that they will try to punish
us, and the Technomancy as well. Be assured that we will stand with you against ANY who would
impose their wills unfairly.
Forrester
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zouron
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posted December 02, 2001 06:01 PM
*smiles and looks to his friend Forrester and smiles softly*
ahh forrester, it has been a long time since our paths has crossed and I have grown... well younger.
*chuckles softly*
As you well know I have been busy, I assume that you are benefitting for the research we have been
able to completely lately? but no matter. Do not fear about imposing their will, I am sure these
honoured genetlemen and women will see justice and lay down their trial as it should, thus I must
decline the help to stand against their impossed power here. But I hope dearly if I do not walk from
here alive, you and the others will make sure that an government will be formed in my land that... can
keep my dream of magic and well being alive?
But let us not argue, but listen to what the chosen ones have to say.
*smiles and leans leans back in the chair*
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Alone is something we all are
only far away voices breaks the silence
whom wish to escape
this labyrinth of loneliness
we fumble our way, but finds nothing
because here are no walls
only the fear's angst
keeps us apart
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Blood Jester
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posted December 02, 2001 06:39 PM
Catching up, give me a moment!
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Laugh 'til you die.
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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 02, 2001 06:42 PM
Take your time, Blood Jester.
Read my posts above carefully, please.
- - -
The male Chosen from Waterdeep stands, moves up to the bar, and speaks:
WE WANT THE DEEP ILLITHID EMISSARY HERE.
NOW!
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johnbrown
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posted December 02, 2001 06:50 PM
Humanoid delegate,
"Yes, you provided my forces technology. That is not my point. You also agreed to provide me with
troops to help assault Oerth after the elves were existinguished. My part of the bargain was to keep
help keep the demons under control; keep them from ravaging your forces, to keep them from
harassing your devil allies. This I did, and while it appeared to be a small thing to you, keeping
hordes of demons more or less under control, is a task that even your vaunted technology would be
hard pressed to accomplish."
Iuz turns back toward the Chosen
"As bad as the carnage was, how much worse would it have been if I had not done all the was godly
possible to try to control the elemental natures, and desires for self-preservation against the devils
which would destroy and enslave them. Perhaps, the Blood War would have truly spilt over onto Toril. It
is possible it would be raging still. It is very possible that all of these mortals owe me, Iuz, a small
debt."
He turns back toward the humanoid delegate.
"I wish no conflict with you, and, for now at least, have no desire to take any the spoils that you have
taken by rightly exercising your strength on the pathetic elves of this crystal sphere. Their fate
concerns me not. I did, however, provide a service in full, and I have received payment in half. Was
our agreement what you would consider informal? Yes, and while I have never been too concerned with
formalities of the law, it was an agreement nonetheless. Perhaps, your failure to pay was simply an
oversight upon your part, if that is the case, if you rectify the situation, then I don?t think we have a
problem. If it was otherwise, then I would say we do."
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After all, it is all about having fun .....
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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 02, 2001 06:56 PM
(The male Chosen chuckles, and comments, to the Humanoid emissary (Forrester)):
Well, lad, it seems you are in hot water, not just with us, but with Iuz.
(He turns to Iuz.)
Just exactly what payment are you expecting out of the Humanoids, Iuz?
- - -
About this time the Githyanki ambassador storms in.
She is in shining armor, and coldly gleaming weapons adorn her waist.
A small retinue of male and female githyanki accompany her.
Glaring at the NeoIllithid, she takes her place in the Court.
And then, in a surprise to nearly all, the Neogi arrive.
Riding on their Umber Hulk slaves, 3 neogi arrive at the Court.
They hiss a respectful greeting to the Chosen, but they do not even acknowledge the presence (or
existence) of anyone else in the room, as they move to take a place in the Court.
And still the scro and their gith allies have not shown, nor have the deep illithid despite the demands
of the Chosen, nor have Bran's Druids, the angels of Hope Island, the elves of Northern Maztica, and
several others.
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johnbrown
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posted December 02, 2001 07:34 PM
Iuz turns back toward the Chosen
"I simply desire what was agreed upon. Enough humanoid soldiers to ensure my total victory over
those who would oppose me. Of course, they would have to be humanoids that would be of some use
to me. Orcs, hobgoblins, ogres, and the like. I say 250,000 or so would cover the debt. Of course, I
am not an unreasonable god, I would be willing to hear some comparable counter
proposals?worshipping me, perhaps?but as I said I am willing to listen."
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After all, it is all about having fun .....
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posted December 02, 2001 07:40 PM
*the old druid (Serran) takes a deep breath*
"First, I must protest the pulling of a free spirit here to suffer again the deaths of her people. Her pain is
obvious to me."
"Now YOU." *points to Forrester*
"You claim that it is the Elves fault that the various races of your coalition were for millennia savage,
bloodthirsty banes on the decent peoples and creatures of the realms? You take no responsibility for you own
behaviours huh?"
"HAH!"
"So as you preyed on Elven children, long before this conflict; and preyed on human children, and GNOME,
and DWARF, AND HALFLING, AND THE VERY LAND ITSELF!!!"
*he stands, looming forward like the front of a storm, voice quiet again*
"None of that is your fault? 'The Elves made us do it.' Pathetic."
*leaning back again, but still standing*
"So the elves should have forgiven you millennia of torment in these past forty years, while you still harbor
your grudges for their actions in the war?"
"And what of they other races you harmed? Is it their fault as well? Should they also beg your forgiveness,
and now submit to live under your oh-so-gentle yolk?"
*he sits*
"As for keeping open gates to drain the magic of Faerie. You all wish to live without responsibility for the
consequences of your actions, past, present, and future."
"If you wish to continue to rape the land that born you, that nourishes you, that sustains you. Do not think
that you have the right to drain the very magic and life of a whole other realm? N. O."
"Take responsibility for your selves as this one is not capable of doing, or live with the consequences. But
you may not poison the lands of others who have learned to live in harmony with the world."
*he sits there, immovable as the very bedrock below*
Maybe an old druid is not the type to be open to that kind of Eco-irresponsibility, eh?
Blood Jester
[OOC - P.S. - Thanks for not getting too far ahead of me, if the thread maintains this pace, I might
be able to keep up with it and still not get fired!]
[edit - cut and paste oops]
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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 02, 2001 01:15 PM
The Chosen had not really expected the devils and demons to answer the summons.
But they did, both groups.
The Chosen seem inordinately pleased by this, even the sulking Chosen from Waterdeep, and the
Chosen from Silverymoon smiles at the new arrivals.
Then the Lady speaks:
Lord Iuz, your power is recognized and your statements are taken in the utmost seriousness.
We are considering every word you have spoken.
Ambassador of the Devils, your Lordship, we understand the obligations that you are under, and the
rules you must abide by.
Everything you have said is recorded, and is being duly considered.
However, we still await certain tardy emissaries and ambassadors.
When they arrive, you shall know why we have summoned you, and then all will be made clear.
Please exercise patience. The wait will not be much longer.
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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 02, 2001 01:27 PM
The following people and beings are now in the Court of the Chosen:
The ambassador of the Technomancy
The ambassador of the Humanoid Alliance
The ambassador of the Phaerimm / Aboleth Alliance.
The ambassador of the City of Shade.
The ambassador of the Faerie.
The ambassador of the Elven Alliance (the tiny remnants of it.)
The ambassador of the Drow (self appointed.)
The ambassador (s) of the NeoIllithids.
The ambassador of the Dwarves.
The ambassador of the Gnomes.
The ambassador of the Halflings.
The ambassador of the Kender (who has decided the NeoIllithid are a great and noble race, and his
friends.)
A number of ambassadors from Zakhara.
The ambassador of the Tuigan.
The ambassador of Maztica.
The ambassador of the Devils.
Iuz the Old, ambassador of Himself and the Demons.
(I miss anyone?)
The following ambassadors have still not shown up:
The ambassador of the Deep Illithid (that is, one of the actual Illithid themselves)
The ambassador of Bran's Druids.
The ambassador of Zouron's Magocracy
The ambassador of the Scro / Gith.
The ambassador of the Githyanki.
The ambassador of the Defilers.
The ambassador of the Thri-Kreen.
The ambassador of the Athian Immigrants.
Any ambassadors from Oerth other than Iuz.
The Chosen send another summons to those ambassadors who have not yet shown
They also ask those present to send messengers to the missing people in question, asking them to
get to the Court so the proceedings may continue.
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Phasmus
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posted December 02, 2001 01:30 PM
*The eldest of the three Neoillithid speaks, his low resonant voice echoing through the minds of all
present. His tendrils writhe hypnotically in time with his voice.*
We speak neither for nor against the Humanoids, the Technomancy or the Elves... yet. Rather, we wish
to address Forrester of the Humanoids, directly.
We see, Forrester, that you are powerful. That from your, if we may be so bold, humble beginnings...
you have risen as few in history have.
We call upon you now, not to confess, not to be punished, not even to acknowledge that you have
done wrong... But simply to forgive.
For the all the elves have done... they have been punished. Punished as severely as any race can be.
Not just their lives, but all that they were, has been obliterated. You have wiped them away, Forrester.
It is not a question of the elves changing their ways. They are gone. Those that return will not be the
same... will not be allowed to be the same. Let them start again... Let the elves of Toril return, not as
enemies, but as friends of the Humanoids.
You will say, perhaps, that you mistrust, or even loathe the sight of elves... As they are likely to say of
you. Other than counterproductive mutual hatred... unfounded in present time... We see no reason it
could not be done.
Our former race, the Illithid, hate all but themselves as a matter of course. They will not, can not, let
go of that... And it brings them nothing but darkness, frustration and misery... though they are loathe
to admit it. We beg you Forrester, do not travel that road.
If you are even willing to consider the idea... we will help as best we can.
And we extend the same offer to the elves.
*The speaker pauses for a long time, psionically sighs, and continues.*
As for the faerie... Though we feel your desire to be rid of them is similarly... outdated. We doubt they
would be willing to return as things stand, even if invited.
It is known that the weave of Toril is dying... We perceive, Forrester, that you do not care if the world
dies, as long as you are gone when it happens. That you advocate waiting... and seeing what can be
done in the future. It is too dangerous to assume that something can be done, we believe. Your
proposal, then, is that Toril be left a cold, desolate husk, after the weave comes unraveled? That all
who wish to survive, simply migrate to another world?
For the process to begin again.
There are many who do, and will, love this world... and who would die before leaving. You may call
them fools, if you wish...
Or... perhaps... you understand.
In any case, we suggest a compromise. A mere planar connection to the realm of Faerie may be
sufficient... Even now, our people are attempting to develop planar gates that will allow the
transference of planar essence, while preventing the transfer of all else. The realm of Faerie will have
nothing to fear from incursions by Toril... And as the magic of the realm seeps into Toril, the weave will
be restored, and maintained. As an added measure of security, the gates can be deactivated from
either side, but only activated by mutual agreement of both sides.
Hopefully, when we are successful, the realm of Faerie would agree to their installation *nods at the
Blood Jester*, and the Chosen would be willing to provide an extra measure of security... by acting as
their custodians here.
That is all we have to say. For the time being.
*The Neoillithid speaker sits, and gazes calmly out over the crowd.*
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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 02, 2001 01:35 PM
All of the Chosen break into a quiet applause, after the NeoIllithid speaker has finished.
Then, they look at the Humanoid emissary (Forrester) and the Faerie emissary (Blood Jester), and
also to the Elven emissary (whoever would speak for him.)
The Chosen from Silverymoon (who apparently is now the Speak for the Chosen) asks softly:
Will you make answer?
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Forrester
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posted December 02, 2001 01:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Phasmus:
We call upon you now, not to confess, not to be punished, not even to acknowledge
that you have done wrong... But simply to forgive.
For the all the elves have done... they have been punished. Punished as severely as
any race can be. Not just their lives, but all that they were, has been obliterated. You
have wiped them away, Forrester.
...
Let the elves of Toril return, not as enemies, but as friends of the Humanoids.
As for the faerie... Though we feel your desire to be rid of them is similarly... outdated.
We doubt they would be willing to return as things stand, even if invited.
It is known that the weave of Toril is dying... We perceive, Forrester, that you do not
care if the world dies, as long as you are gone when it happens. That you advocate
waiting... and seeing what can be done in the future. It is too dangerous to assume that
something can be done, we believe. Your proposal, then, is that Toril be left a cold,
desolate husk, after the weave comes unraveled? That all who wish to survive, simply
migrate to another world?
First, on behalf of the Humanoid Alliance, I salute you, and your people. For if any race has changed
more than we have in the last half-century, it is yourselves. In the last forty years, you have proven
yourselves to be worthy friends of the Technomancy -- and thus, if I may be so bold, friends to us.
However, with all due respect, you are wrong on most counts.
Forgiveness should not be free. Rather, it should only come when they who have done wrong are ready
to ask for it -- otherwise, it is wasted. Let us wait to find what the other elven representatives have to
say, as well as the spirit of their dead Queen. If there is nothing but what came from the
representative of the Drow -- talk of curses and blood oaths and vendetta -- then we would be fools to
forgive them, no? An elf's memory is quite long. I doubt that they are ready to forgive US for what we
did to them after a mere 40 years.
As regards the Weave, you have misunderstood me. We are interested in the gradual weakening of
the Weave, but we are studying it fully and we plan to find a way to heal it. We are powerful in both
psionics and technology (though not quite as technologically advanced as our friends, the
Technomancy), and we will work with all who will work with us to find a cure.
You should not have taken my jest about Warp Drive so seriously. I fully believe that within one or two
hundred years, with work and diligence, we will have found a way to heal the Weave. That solution will
come in *PLENTY* of time, will it not? Talk of bringing in the Fae, when the Fae loathe us for what they
think we did to Toril, would be foolhardy. We do not have the will to fight another war, and that is
exactly what I am afraid would happen.
Now . . . this plan of yours to bring a connection between them and us . . . if it were 100% foolproof,
then it might be a possibility. We would have to inspect your plans, test them, find whether the Fae
were agreeable to it, and so on. I see no rush, though.
And given that the last time we talked with the Fae, they demanded that in return for their help, we
stop ALL TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCE, I doubt they are going to be so reasonable as you think.
But we will see. Let them speak, and we will see.
Forrester
Peacemaker
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posted December 02, 2001 01:57 PM
*The old Neoillithid nods*
Naturally... any such attempt at reconciliation between the humanoids and the elves would require the
effort and commitment of both sides.
Remember, right or wrong,... from the perspective of the elves... it is you who needs to be forgiven.
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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 02, 2001 01:59 PM
I need Blood Jester's reply.
I need him to speak for both the Faerie and for the Elven Ambassador (arrived from the asteroid
where he was hiding.)
The drow ambassador sneers at the emissary of the Humanoids (Forrester), and comments:
You Humanoids are constantly talking big: you always did.
And it always ends the same way, with you kneeling and groveling before the power of Lolth, begging
for us to restrain our whip hands.
The drow arose from the ashes of the Crown War in a far bigger way than you ever did from your
Seven Year War, and we went on to become THE pre-eminent elven - if one would use such a term -
power.
The surface world would have been ours, had Queen Lolth commanded it.
Only by her decision to restrain us were you allowed to remain free, and to wreak the havoc you have
caused.
We will study your Technomagic, and we will improve on it.
We will acquire your nuclear weapons, and your psionic abilities, and all of your powers, to be put to
the use of Queen Lolth.
At this point, the Chosen from Silverymoon looks at the drow emissary, and says quietly:
Be silent.
And, the drow emissary ... shuts up.
The young lady looks over the assemblage, and frowns, then says sharply:
We require the presence of the DEEP ILLITHID emissary.
Now.
And we expect one of their own to come this time, and not Thralls.
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Forrester
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posted December 02, 2001 02:08 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith:
The drow ambassador sneers at the emissary of the Humanoids (Forrester), and
comments:
You Humanoids are constantly talking big: you always did.
And it always ends the same way, with you kneeling and groveling before the power of
Lolth, begging for us to restrain our whip hands.
All I can say is this:
Now that all of the white meat is gone, it's good to at least have some dark meat left.
Forrester
Peacemaker
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Rhialto the
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posted December 02, 2001 02:27 PM
Rhialto signals Forrester.
Excuse me, but my question seems to be unanswered. Now, did you not attack the elves with the
intent of destroying the entire species?
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Forrester
Member
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posted December 02, 2001 02:31 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Rhialto the Marvellous:
Rhialto signals Forrester.
Excuse me, but my question seems to be unanswered. Now, did you not attack the
elves with the intent of destroying the entire species?
Your questions are of little interest to me. It should be apparent to the most retarded gully dwarf what
our intent was, and why we had to do what we did. If you still do not understand, I fail to see how
further explanations will be helpful.
Forrester
Peacemaker
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Rhialto the
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posted December 02, 2001 02:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Forrester:
Your questions are of little interest to me. It should be apparent to the most retarded
gully dwarf what our intent was, and why we had to do what we did. If you still do not
understand, I fail to see how further explanations will be helpful.
Forrester
Peacemaker
Rhialto smiles and nods.
Excellent. I'm glad that this is clear.
Rhialto then signals the Chosen.
It would seem to me that the Humanoid ambassador has publically confessed his culpability in the
death of the elves. What's more as he is dealing with devils at this very moment, I think you can
declare them guilty of that charge as well and end their section of trial.
Rhialto here takes a magisterial stance.
After all, their guilt is clear. They've made no effort to disprove the charges, or show any form of
repentence, but continue to blame the elves for what were the Humanoid actions. Further, I would like
to state that the Humanoids share a portion of the blame in the Cataclysm , as it would have never
happened had they not stubbornly pushed against Evermeet, soley responsible for the damaging of
the Weave which resulted from the elves' deaths, and thus are also partially responsible for the death
of millions of the Psionics' League who perished repairing it.
With that, Rhialto gives a slight bow.
Of course, this is all my humble opinion, as an uninvolved bystander, from another world.
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Forrester
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posted December 02, 2001 03:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by johnbrown:
Iuz:
"Now, that all of that has been cleared up, let us move on to more important matters.
I, Iuz, provided some small services for some of the factions of that war, and I have
yet to be fully compensated for those services. If you, The Chosen, are truly seeking
justice, may I suggest that you use your powers to provide me with some, and compel
those parties to make good on the arrangement we had."
Iuz, you provided some small services for us, and you were duly compensated. We *did* provide you
some small technological advances; whether or not you have employed them or used them in Oerth is
unknown to me. As the Devils know, we Humanoids keep our word.
Forrester
Peacemaker
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zouron
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posted December 02, 2001 05:27 PM
*appears in person by the entrance to the court and speaks softly*
I hope this meeting is not all closed yet?
*with these words zouron steps in wearing a grey wizard robe, which he dust off lightly*
I hear I have been accussed of.. aiding in the total destruction of elves, this point I like to agree but
first of all, I will state that I willingly submit to the decision of this court.
Now I am not the speaker that many of these fine gentlemen and ladies... and others are, not at all!
indeed I am hardly a ruler though I rule a nation, my devotion is without question towards magic in
every aspect of it. This said I also believe that a prospering people provide the most resources for
increasing magic in every way.
Technology as I have in the war dealt with many times, has been a new area for the knowledge of
magic and the creation of many helpful as well as destructive and even some very pointless spells,
and even more tomes, especially through the creation of the printing press, has now been created.
The was as I see it started dear members of the court as a desire to destroy technology, to me
technology is an advancement, and thus it should be approved, as advancing a society means giving it
more resources and a larger knolwedge base, so I had to side against this of course. During the war I
had many different alliance, but many should note that I been very intent on getting resources and
better the ways of those I ruled, even providing security in ways I could, while using lifeless
animations, and those damned as defenders of this realm to protect the realm devoted to advancing
all magic. My hoice of servants though I will not defend as this is hardly the point of this trial.
Continuing to the real core of this case as I see and remember it was the final battle which Mr.
Forester undertook to completely destroy and kill all elves. Now this was indeed tragic, and you might
wonder why I actually did help him here, first understand I had not as great power I could make a big
difference on either side, and since I am a man of different ideal then the elves, in fact I think they
would find my choice rather distateful, I had long ago sided with the humanoids armies. But back to
the final battle, I records proving the my main effort in this was to smuggle as many elves to safety
while there was still time, and these elves was treated well, protected even led back when it was safe.
Forester might remember een that I found him in lack of intelligence for finishing off the elves. When
I and my people returned so did the elves we had saved, or captured or whatever you might call it. No
I say that I aided Forester merely to be able to save as many souls as possible, both to save the
magic, and also to save the knowleedge they provide and potiental they provide.
*sighs and then finds a seat sitting down* I will answer what questions you might have, and again I will
lay my punishment in your hands chosen of the magical goddess.
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Alone is something we all are
only far away voices breaks the silence
whom wish to escape
this labyrinth of loneliness
we fumble our way, but finds nothing
because here are no walls
only the fear's angst
keeps us apart
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Forrester
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posted December 02, 2001 05:39 PM
Zouron, welcome! It has been a long time.
Thank you much for what assistance you provided -- and you are correct in saying that both you and
the Technomancy were less than thrilled with my desire to crush Evermeet completely and totally. The
taking of Evermeet was accomplished mostly by my forces, the Gith, and the Devils; you and the
Technomancy had small roles, if that.
I think that in retrospect, it is obvious that it needed to be done, but the matter is of little import now.
And I promise you this -- if the Chosen choose to punish you, it is certain that they will try to punish
us, and the Technomancy as well. Be assured that we will stand with you against ANY who would
impose their wills unfairly.
Forrester
Peacemaker
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zouron
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posted December 02, 2001 06:01 PM
*smiles and looks to his friend Forrester and smiles softly*
ahh forrester, it has been a long time since our paths has crossed and I have grown... well younger.
*chuckles softly*
As you well know I have been busy, I assume that you are benefitting for the research we have been
able to completely lately? but no matter. Do not fear about imposing their will, I am sure these
honoured genetlemen and women will see justice and lay down their trial as it should, thus I must
decline the help to stand against their impossed power here. But I hope dearly if I do not walk from
here alive, you and the others will make sure that an government will be formed in my land that... can
keep my dream of magic and well being alive?
But let us not argue, but listen to what the chosen ones have to say.
*smiles and leans leans back in the chair*
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Alone is something we all are
only far away voices breaks the silence
whom wish to escape
this labyrinth of loneliness
we fumble our way, but finds nothing
because here are no walls
only the fear's angst
keeps us apart
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Blood Jester
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posted December 02, 2001 06:39 PM
Catching up, give me a moment!
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Edena_of_Neith
Member
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posted December 02, 2001 06:42 PM
Take your time, Blood Jester.
Read my posts above carefully, please.
- - -
The male Chosen from Waterdeep stands, moves up to the bar, and speaks:
WE WANT THE DEEP ILLITHID EMISSARY HERE.
NOW!
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johnbrown
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posted December 02, 2001 06:50 PM
Humanoid delegate,
"Yes, you provided my forces technology. That is not my point. You also agreed to provide me with
troops to help assault Oerth after the elves were existinguished. My part of the bargain was to keep
help keep the demons under control; keep them from ravaging your forces, to keep them from
harassing your devil allies. This I did, and while it appeared to be a small thing to you, keeping
hordes of demons more or less under control, is a task that even your vaunted technology would be
hard pressed to accomplish."
Iuz turns back toward the Chosen
"As bad as the carnage was, how much worse would it have been if I had not done all the was godly
possible to try to control the elemental natures, and desires for self-preservation against the devils
which would destroy and enslave them. Perhaps, the Blood War would have truly spilt over onto Toril. It
is possible it would be raging still. It is very possible that all of these mortals owe me, Iuz, a small
debt."
He turns back toward the humanoid delegate.
"I wish no conflict with you, and, for now at least, have no desire to take any the spoils that you have
taken by rightly exercising your strength on the pathetic elves of this crystal sphere. Their fate
concerns me not. I did, however, provide a service in full, and I have received payment in half. Was
our agreement what you would consider informal? Yes, and while I have never been too concerned with
formalities of the law, it was an agreement nonetheless. Perhaps, your failure to pay was simply an
oversight upon your part, if that is the case, if you rectify the situation, then I don?t think we have a
problem. If it was otherwise, then I would say we do."
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After all, it is all about having fun .....
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Edena_of_Neith
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posted December 02, 2001 06:56 PM
(The male Chosen chuckles, and comments, to the Humanoid emissary (Forrester)):
Well, lad, it seems you are in hot water, not just with us, but with Iuz.
(He turns to Iuz.)
Just exactly what payment are you expecting out of the Humanoids, Iuz?
- - -
About this time the Githyanki ambassador storms in.
She is in shining armor, and coldly gleaming weapons adorn her waist.
A small retinue of male and female githyanki accompany her.
Glaring at the NeoIllithid, she takes her place in the Court.
And then, in a surprise to nearly all, the Neogi arrive.
Riding on their Umber Hulk slaves, 3 neogi arrive at the Court.
They hiss a respectful greeting to the Chosen, but they do not even acknowledge the presence (or
existence) of anyone else in the room, as they move to take a place in the Court.
And still the scro and their gith allies have not shown, nor have the deep illithid despite the demands
of the Chosen, nor have Bran's Druids, the angels of Hope Island, the elves of Northern Maztica, and
several others.
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posted December 02, 2001 07:34 PM
Iuz turns back toward the Chosen
"I simply desire what was agreed upon. Enough humanoid soldiers to ensure my total victory over
those who would oppose me. Of course, they would have to be humanoids that would be of some use
to me. Orcs, hobgoblins, ogres, and the like. I say 250,000 or so would cover the debt. Of course, I
am not an unreasonable god, I would be willing to hear some comparable counter
proposals?worshipping me, perhaps?but as I said I am willing to listen."
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After all, it is all about having fun .....
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posted December 02, 2001 07:40 PM
*the old druid (Serran) takes a deep breath*
"First, I must protest the pulling of a free spirit here to suffer again the deaths of her people. Her pain is
obvious to me."
"Now YOU." *points to Forrester*
"You claim that it is the Elves fault that the various races of your coalition were for millennia savage,
bloodthirsty banes on the decent peoples and creatures of the realms? You take no responsibility for you own
behaviours huh?"
"HAH!"
"So as you preyed on Elven children, long before this conflict; and preyed on human children, and GNOME,
and DWARF, AND HALFLING, AND THE VERY LAND ITSELF!!!"
*he stands, looming forward like the front of a storm, voice quiet again*
"None of that is your fault? 'The Elves made us do it.' Pathetic."
*leaning back again, but still standing*
"So the elves should have forgiven you millennia of torment in these past forty years, while you still harbor
your grudges for their actions in the war?"
"And what of they other races you harmed? Is it their fault as well? Should they also beg your forgiveness,
and now submit to live under your oh-so-gentle yolk?"
*he sits*
"As for keeping open gates to drain the magic of Faerie. You all wish to live without responsibility for the
consequences of your actions, past, present, and future."
"If you wish to continue to rape the land that born you, that nourishes you, that sustains you. Do not think
that you have the right to drain the very magic and life of a whole other realm? N. O."
"Take responsibility for your selves as this one is not capable of doing, or live with the consequences. But
you may not poison the lands of others who have learned to live in harmony with the world."
*he sits there, immovable as the very bedrock below*
Maybe an old druid is not the type to be open to that kind of Eco-irresponsibility, eh?
Blood Jester
[OOC - P.S. - Thanks for not getting too far ahead of me, if the thread maintains this pace, I might
be able to keep up with it and still not get fired!]
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Forrester starts to yawn as the Chosen babble on about the
