Spoilers Ironheart spoilers

[Morrus]

... and Riri was gonna be all, "Naw, I see through you Ali G.

You'd think by now people would see Ali G coming, but I guess he's been retired for the last 20 years. Before her time!

 

[Tonguez]

You'd think by now people would see Ali G coming, but I guess he's been retired for the last 20 years. Before her time!

West Staines Massiv 4 Eva aiiight! He's now da voice of da MCYoof
(ya see what I did there? - Boyakasha!)

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

I think in the end one problem I have with the show is also a problem a lot of shared universes have, which is stuff happening in sequels that the characters would/should have known in previous chapters. Where was all this trauma of hers in Wakanda Forever?

And a side note, but I guess this means Mephisto was also behind The Hood in season 3 of What If?

 

[chuckdee]

Look, I went into the show and the finale blind. Even though it was all set up, even though I saw the story payoff coming, I still assumed Marvel was going to Marvel ... and Riri was gonna be all, "Naw, I see through you Ali G. I've learned valuable lessons about letting go and stuff. Plus, did you see what happened to the last guy?"

But they didn't Marvel it. I was shocked, surprised, and happy to see that actual character work pay off. If you strip away all the superhero stuff and the magic stuff ... it was a sad and moving story about someone who is still broken, and the decisions that they make.

This was great. Thanks for putting it into words and writing this.

I think in the end one problem I have with the show is also a problem a lot of shared universes have, which is stuff happening in sequels that the characters would/should have known in previous chapters. Where was all this trauma of hers in Wakanda Forever?

I will agree with this. Her characterization in Wakanda Forever was ... lacking. As was the need for her to be there. They should have stuck to this as her introduction, because they even had to put in a reason for her not to lean on those connections. And I think if Shuri was her friend, in the time between she would have reached out at some point.

And a side note, but I guess this means Mephisto was also behind The Hood in season 3 of What If?

Funny thing about the Hood. In the comics, it actually is linked to the Dark Dimension and Dormammu, which was where Zelma got that from. Mephisto gives it to him in this rendition which I think was an awesome change. But in the comics, he gets it off a demon just like Clown alluded to in the show.

Meet the Hood, the Cloaked Crime Lord with Demonic Powers

Who is the Hood? Learn all about Parker Robbins, from his magic pistols to his time as the Kingpin of Crime.

www.marvel.com

The Nisanti demon's gear draws power from Dormammu, Lord of the Dark Dimension. As such, the Hood's cloak grants him invisibility and teleportation; he can also channel its magic through his matching pistols, making them more lethal and capable of downing even the mightiest heroes and villains. The Hood's boots grant him levitation, letting him hover and literally walk on air. In brief bursts, Parker can transform into the Nisanti demon who originally owned his gear, making him significantly more formidable.

 

[Older Beholder]

The Beatles joke was pretty good as well.

 

[Tonguez]

Funny thing about the Hood. In the comics, it actually is linked to the Dark Dimension and Dormammu, which was where Zelma got that from. Mephisto gives it to him in this rendition which I think was an awesome change. But in the comics, he gets it off a demon just like Clown alluded to in the show.

Meet the Hood, the Cloaked Crime Lord with Demonic Powers

Who is the Hood? Learn all about Parker Robbins, from his magic pistols to his time as the Kingpin of Crime.

www.marvel.com

Im happy theyre using Mephisto rather than generic demon IV for MCU purposes.

and giving the Dormammu easter egg while introducing Mephisto worked within the canon of MCU - it also works via the profanity to show Mephistos arrogant personality and as a nod to Ali G.

It was great. Even if again it was jarring in a Disney show