Is 4E still D&D to you?

[Steely Dan]

Yes, it is. And actually even more than 3.x ever was.

Total.

It's so D&D to me, that it is actually making me want to run a Basic, or 1st/2nd Ed campaign (first time in 14 years) alongside my 4th Ed one.

I could never go back to 3rd Ed, well, certainly not DMing.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

So then about 1043563 games out there are D&D too.

Yes, I think that might actually be truer then people like to acknowledge. Imagine they were published by TSR or WotC several years or decades ago. Just slap the D&D logo on and add some of the "IP" - Mind Flayers, Beholders, and you have a kind of D&D.

But then, I am not a D&D player. I am a role-player (subtype might be butt-kicker, power-gamer, tactician or something like that). I wouldn't play 3E or 4E just because it is "D&D". I play them because they are good role-playing games and provide me with a lot of fun. (And they are well-supported with supplements and adventures)

I would never try playing AD&D or OD&D, because for me, they are dated games that I never experienced when they were still in, and thus only a legacy. That might be an unfair assessment on my point, and the "D&D is retro?" discussion implied that there might be a little more to the old editions. But I don't feel like trying them out anyway.

 

[Steely Dan]

I would never try playing AD&D or OD&D, because for me, they are dated games that I never experienced when they were still in, and thus only a legacy. That might be an unfair assessment on my point, and the "D&D is retro?" discussion implied that there might be a little more to the old editions. But I don't feel like trying them out anyway.

How about if someone offered to DM you in a one-off, would you give it a shot, just to see what has stayed the same, and what has changed?

Sometimes experiences like that can deepen your understanding of something, like learning another language gives you greater knowledge and insight into your first language or any other languages you know.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

How about if someone offered to DM you in a one-off, would you give it a shot, just to see what has stayed the same, and what has changed?

Sometimes experiences like that can deepen your understanding of something, like learning another language gives you greater knowledge and insight into your first language or any other languages you know.

If I had the time for a one-off, maybe. It's not like I am averse to trying out unfamiliar game systems. But I have to be a little more picky with my times these days.

 

[jimmyjimjam]

Well, better time to answer this poll now then when it first appeared 10 months ago.

Hit points? check
XP & Levels? check
Classes/Races? check
Fantasy? check
Polyhedral dice (especially that d20)? check
Sitting around a table with friends being heroes slaying monsters?

Still sounds like D&D to me.

Do many of the above qualities apply to other tabletop RPGS? Check. Guess that makes them D&D as well.

 

[Weregrognard]

This is what Yoda would probably say about it:

"No, no different. Only different in your mind. You must unlearn what you have learned (about D&D)."

By approaching the new game without ego or bias, I do feel like it's 1990 all over again and I just discovered that awesome black boxed game with the huge red dragon in it.

D&D is not an edition. D&D is not my D&D. D&D is not your D&D. D&D is D&D.

 

[sinecure]

"It is all things to all people, and is as meaningless as it is indefinable."

Actually, it's a brand name that brings in a huge chunk of cash. It's how we pretty much all buy things now. By brand, not by particulars. Particulars take too much time to figure out. ...and I've got a lotta things to buy.

 

[hazel monday]

No. It ain't D&D to me. It's barely even an RPG.
I've run it twice now, and I'd rather eat glass than do it again.

 

[eleran]

That could be Palladium Fantasy or Rolemaster, though.

Not really, if it was Palladium there would have been an extra question; Does it suck? check

For Rolemaster; Do i need my calculus text? check

 

[Holy Bovine]

It's probably more D&D to me.

That is my feeling as well. Despite the different trappings the game I grew up with is still there.