Is Davy Jones from the Pirates movie a god?

[Mark]

Druidic Lich

 

[Rel]

He would be in my campaign world but it's got notoriously low standards for godhood.

 

[Maggan]

You can also just think of him as a powerful form of lich. His heart is his phylactery.

That's a cool idea. I was toying with the idea of him maybe being a Death Knight, like whatshisname ... Soth.

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[Chaoszero]

And, by the way, he doesn't sentence souls, as he seems to ask for their servitude - "Are you afraid of Death?"

He does sentence souls, though. His crew isn't there out of kindness or loyalty, they're stuck. And they gamble their years of servitude with dice games. That's a bound soul right there.

And what is the real power difference of a god or exarch or demon lord? I hear there are even exarchs of demon lords.

- Maybe a god has total control over their domain. Classic greek god control.

- An exarch has control over one aspect of that domain.

God = Sea // Exarch = Dead stuff in Sea.

- And a demon lord has no control over a domain but is powerful enough to form their own bubble of influence in a plane and has learned epic abilities to concern themselves with the mortal world on a more personal scale.

I'm guessing. I never really broke down the power levels.

 

[Arivendel]

You can also just think of him as a powerful form of lich. His heart is his phylactery.

Yes you can also see him this way, it doesnt sound as cool as him being an Exarch but it makes sense in a way.

And, by the way, he doesn't sentence souls, as he seems to ask for their servitude - "Are you afraid of Death?"

Actually Davy Jones job was to be the ferry man of souls, to guide the souls of those who die at sea to the afterlife, it is explained in the movies that after Calipso's betrayal he neglects and perverts his purpose, and offers sailors who are about to die at sea the chance to serve him in the Dutchman for 100 years under the excuse that they will stave off Death until then, when in truth after the 100 years have passed their very souls/minds meld with the ship effectively dooming them to eternity of servitude. It is a very cool concept and its also a very cool idea for a cursed ship (something I hope ill be able to implement once DMG2 brings the Sea Combat rules and all that jazz ).

 

[Umbran]

He does sentence souls, though. His crew isn't there out of kindness or loyalty, they're stuck. And they gamble their years of servitude with dice games. That's a bound soul right there.

Binding does not equal sentencing. I don't believe we ever see him take a soul that doesn't agree to the bargain. So, it isn't a "sentence", imposed against the person's will. It is a contract, entered into willingly.

That many might not like their bargain after the fact is a separate issue.

 

[kitsune9]

I watched the Pirate of the Caribbean movies for the first time since they were in theaters and noticed that Davy Jones is quite powerful.

He can transport himself and his crew from ship to ship.
He commands the kraken.
He seems to know everything that happens to anyone at sea.
He can sentence souls into servitude.

He also, however, has weaknesses such as his heart and he does become subservient to a human in the third movie.

Is he therefore a god? Or perhaps an exarch or demi-god much like the demon princes? Or is he just a very powerful creature?

From what I remember of the third movie was that Calypso is the goddess who put him in charge of the dead, but he shirked his duties. I wouldn't say he's a god, but a powerful agent of Calypso.

 

[Shemeska]

Proxy of Calypso

 

[Fallen Seraph]

I wouldn't say he is a God in the D&D sense of the word. But he is actually a extremely good example of a God in my campaigns that have Gods:

• They rule over a particular aspect of reality. With specific powers within that region. So in this case the oceans and binding of souls.
• They live on the world they control aspects of.
• They are mortal, but have learnt many tricks over the years to circumnavigate it.
• If they are killed through whatever means necessary reality and the world creates another. Or that aspect of the world/reality vanishes.

I would say Davy Jones is a God in my campaigns. While Horo from Spice and Wolf be a lesser God.

 

[Mouseferatu]

The closest analogue might actually be a Darklord of the shadowfell--Both cursed and empowered by the evils he's committed and the tragedies he's suffered, Granted incredible control, but only over his domain.

This would be my take on it. He's a darklord that--like the (D&D version of the) Headless Horseman--has a domain that overlaps portions of the mortal world.