Is Die Hard a Christmas movie?

[FrogReaver]

Most Christmas movies are kinda lame.

Fixed it for you!

 

[The Sigil]

I see it as similar to the arguments over whether or not "Literature X" is Evil.

In order for literature to be Evil it is not sufficient to simply "depict" Evil - since in order to warn against/castigate/denounce evil - which would be the OPPOSITE of Evil - you must also describe/depict it in some fashion. The Literature must either "advocate" (arguably) or "embody" Evil and/or its tenets/themes to be considered "Evil Literature".

Some literature depicts evil.
Some literature advocates evil. (It can be debated whether or not something that advocates for evil is itself evil.)
Some literature embodies evil (or, if you prefer, "is evil" by definition).

So let's apply this same logic to determining whether a movie (literature) is a Christmas Movie (Evil).

Die Hard depicts Christmas.
Die Hard does not advocate for Christmas or its tenets/themes ("peace on earth, good will to men").
Die Hard does not embody Christmas or its tenets/themes.

Therefore, while Die Hard is a movie that depicts Christmas, it is not a "Christmas Movie." (You could also apply this to a lot of Hallmark movies.)

(The above is not intended to convince you that you're right/wrong, it is merely the description of how I get to where I get. Your mileage may vary, particularly if you disagree with my assumptions.)

 

[trappedslider]

I see it as similar to the arguments over whether or not "Literature X" is Evil.

you were the kid who went beyond the test answers in school weren't you?

 

[Tonguez]

I see it as similar to the arguments over whether or not "Literature X" is Evil.

In order for literature to be Evil it is not sufficient to simply "depict" Evil - since in order to warn against/castigate/denounce evil - which would be the OPPOSITE of Evil - you must also describe/depict it in some fashion. The Literature must either "advocate" (arguably) or "embody" Evil and/or its tenets/themes to be considered "Evil Literature".

Some literature depicts evil.
Some literature advocates evil. (It can be debated whether or not something that advocates for evil is itself evil.)
Some literature embodies evil (or, if you prefer, "is evil" by definition).

So let's apply this same logic to determining whether a movie (literature) is a Christmas Movie (Evil).

Die Hard depicts Christmas.
Die Hard does not advocate for Christmas or its tenets/themes ("peace on earth, good will to men").
Die Hard does not embody Christmas or its tenets/themes.

Therefore, while Die Hard is a movie that depicts Christmas, it is not a "Christmas Movie." (You could also apply this to a lot of Hallmark movies.)

(The above is not intended to convince you that you're right/wrong, it is merely the description of how I get to where I get. Your mileage may vary, particularly if you disagree with my assumptions.)

But John McClane is literally fighting to bring Peace and Good Will to his wife and the good people in Nakatomi Tower. The movie is entirely advocating for love and reconciliation against hard odds despite what or who stands in the way.
John Walks across broken glass and puts his life on the line so the Nakatomi employees can go home - that’s heroic Goodwill to all

 

[Zardnaar]

But John McClane is literally fighting to bring Peace and Good Will to his wife and the good people in Nakatomi Tower. The movie is entirely advocating for love and reconciliation against hard odds despite what or who stands in the way.
John Walks across broken glass and puts his life on the line so the Nakatomi employees can go home - that’s heroic Goodwill to all

Walks on water, walks on glass hmmnn.

 

[payn]

The 25% can enjoy their Christmas with the Kranks.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

The 25% can enjoy their Christmas with the Kranks.

That's got a solid soundtrack, at least.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Die Hard does not embody Christmas or its tenets/themes.

Sure it does: conflict, strife, mayhem, corporate greed...

 

[Ryujin]

Sure it does: conflict, strife, mayhem, corporate greed...

Oddly enough the greed in this one isn't of the corporate variety

 

[Morrus]

Die Hard viewership skyrockets in December

Of course. Why wouldn’t outlets capitalise on the meme? It’s basic marketing 101!