Is it just me...

[Kallikrates]

I agree this has gotten way out of hand in a way.
And together we can achieve something good...I'm not really sure what though.

Anyway let's try to resolve all these disputes as sensibly as possible.

 

[Khaira]

Advice has been given before, in all the other threads like this one that have popped up. It may be unfortunate to say, but people get tired of repeating themselves over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over ... see what I mean? Annoying, isn't it?

Now, before you say it's all dead and quiet ... well, ISRP does, has, and always will go through waves of activity. Some months/weeks it'll be active, some months/weeks it won't. It happens. It's called life. Unfortunate, be that as it may, but it's a fact. Sorry, the truth hurts; Wal Mart sells Kleenex, I hear. (EDIT: Now, THAT is teasing; if I want to tease, you will know. Trust me.)

The fact that there are many threads similar, if not identical, to this one does not necessarily equate a chronic disease of ISRP or its players.
If a small number of people = X, and if those small number of people have trouble entertaining themselves = Y, then X + Y doesn't = C, that it's everyone else's fault.

Neither do I think this is a blame game that can be played, on anyone.
I know a number of newbies who have active characters, and whom DO NOT have a problem getting noticed or roleplaying with people. What that suggests to ME is that the people who are complaining are too shy to actively get out there.

The common fallacy is the mentality that if the following emoticon is entered: Character Bob enters the tavern and stands in the doorway, looking around
then everyone will jump immediately to interact with poor, lonely souls who don't have anyone to talk to. What isn't realized is that everyone ELSE in the tavern is probably either involved in a conversation or doing the same thing.

So buy a drink for a random character. Observe the present conversations, and join one. Comment on a part of a character's description to start a conversation. Play mad, insane character, who may or may not be loveable. Play some music for the tavern. Join a current storyline, if your problem is being involved.
In short ... DO something. Just the same as has been already said. Don't fall to the "ego" trap, thinking that you ARE the center of the universe, and the world should come to you, not the reverse.

All right, I've repeated myself enough now. Let the rotten vegetable throwing resume.

 

[John a.k.a Sir D]

Once again, repeating your advice that didn't work in the past, will not work now. Why continue to repeat yourself? I have no idea. And, yes its true that plenty of newbies get noticed, however, plenty do not. I am also going to say that I am not -shy- at all. Therefore, am I stupid because I can't get involved? Because none of the advice works? Personally...I believe that it is people's attitudes that need to calm down.

 

[Sienna_Rose]

Advice repeats because the issues keep coming up. Different people each time? Sometimes.
The advice that has been given in this thread is sound, and can work in a majority of cases. Nothing is a perfect fit for every single case.
Needing to calm down is definately a fair observation - getting upset and annoyed at posts just makes them circle around in the blame game, and other unpleasant cycles.

Let's keep in mind - it's a game.

 

[Magi_Gabriel]

Since this thread is getting a little heated I would like people to take a breath and remember to focus on the concepts and ideas, not the people suggesting them. Healthy discussion on saying that you think/believe/know an idea to be wrong/flawed etc and, most importantly, why you believe this is fine.

Saying people who don't agree with you have some negative aspect about them is not.

Personally I am of the belief that it is simply a matter of people making the effort and being willing to learn from their mistakes, I believe it has remained a constant problem and will remain a constant problem everywhere for the lifetime of online roleplaying for the simple reason: People don't always follow the advice well for a wide variety of reasons I'm not going to start discussing (it'd be a long list).

Regardless, the important thing to remember with people's advice is that they generally advise what has worked best for them and that you can change what you do on the site. There's no guarantees you'll ever be able to change what anyone else does.

 

[Khaira]

Once again, repeating your advice that didn't work in the past, will not work now. I am also going to say that I am not -shy- at all.

I encourage you to find, in my post, where precisely I said anyone was stupid. If I said or implied that I thought anyone was stupid, that was not my intention.

In any case, I'm sure I did not. Please, don't put words in my mouth.

Once again, repeating your advice that didn't work in the past, will not work now.

Who says it didn't?

The issue is that people don't get noticed or people aren't having luck roleplaying or what have you. I am not saying, "Aha! If you do THIS, the world will be bright, rosy, and filled with pink, fluffy bunnies!" Who wants pink, fluffy bunnies, anyway. Talk about trippy...

I digress. What I am saying is that "Hey, these are suggestions. Some have worked for me, some have worked for others". That's it. No hidden agenda. No conniving player behind the screen, rubbing his hand maniacally, thinking "Boy, they'll look stupid when they do this!"

Just suggestions.

 

[John a.k.a Sir D]

K, this is dumb. I'm done posting because we aren't getting anywhere but arguing.

 

[Deirdre]

K, this is dumb. I'm done posting because we aren't getting anywhere but arguing.

Again has anyone given any thought to it might be the player's attitude that is detouring other players from interacting with them IC and OOC?

 

[Kalreil]

Simply put, players who have more experience do, in fact, know what they're talking about. They know what works, they know what doesn't, and they generally have a good idea about how things came to be the way that they are.

If this is talking about rules, yes, It is fair to say, but if it is in referance to character concepts it is just wrong.If you do play some character that some one doesn't like for any reason,chances are you will hear about it.If it happens IC that could be a Rl insult,but is probably just roeplaying on the part of the other person. But chances are if you hear it in a PM it is real.Now both can be a turn off for new people, but even vets stand a good chance to be bothered by being called stupid for playing a certain character, or being called a whore because their character isn't exactly chaste,among other various things I have heard/seen.And yes, that kind of thing does happen here.

 

[Ruthia]

If this is talking about rules, yes, It is fair to say, but if it is in referance to character concepts it is just wrong.If you do play some character that some one doesn't like for any reason,chances are you will hear about it.If it happens IC that could be a Rl insult,but is probably just roeplaying on the part of the other person. But chances are if you hear it in a PM it is real.Now both can be a turn off for new people, but even vets stand a good chance to be bothered by being called stupid for playing a certain character, or being called a whore because their character isn't exactly chaste,among other various things I have heard/seen.And yes, that kind of thing does happen here.

Not only does it happen but it's frequent. ANd yet oddly the main ones who do it still it away with it cause they hide it as an IC oppinion.