Is Jack Bauer LG?
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Alzrius
The EN World kitten
From what I understand, Jack Bauer doesn't even blink at torturing captured enemies for information, and tends to skirt a very close line on the legality of his actions, claiming they're for the greater good of defending the nation.
I'd have a hard time seeing Lawful Good, given all of that. I'd see him as more Lawful Neutral, or maybe even just Neutral.
I'd have a hard time seeing Lawful Good, given all of that. I'd see him as more Lawful Neutral, or maybe even just Neutral.
loki44
Explorer
But he tells the truth, keeps his word, helps those in need and speaks out against injustice. He also hates to see the guilty go unpunished, though not at the expense of the other ideals. Yes, his actions border on torture at times, but only to further the ends of law and goodness. He's definitely not neutral since he serves an "order", nor is he chaotic for the same resaon. It's a tough call, but if I had to assign an alignment to that NPC it would have to be LG. I'm not comfortable with that though, so somebody please convince me otherwise.
Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
The ends justifying the means is not Lawful Good. He's not by any means Lawful and I wouldn't even go so far as to say he's even Good. One can be committed to a cause (such as the security of a nation and its citizens) without being inherently good.
And "bordering" on torture? Staging fake executions of children to force people to talk isn't bordering on anything, it's torture.
And "bordering" on torture? Staging fake executions of children to force people to talk isn't bordering on anything, it's torture.
Klaus
First Post
I've seen Jack Bauer lie through his teeth. I've seen him bully about, opress and mislead the people he work with. He's far from methodic, and rely quite a bit on spur-of-the-moment decisions (as befits a 24-hour storyline).
He's Neutral at best. If he were a d20 Modern character, his allegiance would be USA, Kim Bauer, CTU. Not Law, Good, Chaos or Evil.
He's Neutral at best. If he were a d20 Modern character, his allegiance would be USA, Kim Bauer, CTU. Not Law, Good, Chaos or Evil.
Agent Oracle
First Post
Bauer's alignment?
He sways between Lawful neutral and True Neutral. He's loyal, but his loyalty is more to his own concept of how the job should be done than to any sort of higher standards. He has no problems with shooting or torturing people, which is evil, but hes self-sacrificing to the point of almost getting himself killed in an exploding building so he could save a friend, which is good. Hence, he is mostly neutral.
He sways between Lawful neutral and True Neutral. He's loyal, but his loyalty is more to his own concept of how the job should be done than to any sort of higher standards. He has no problems with shooting or torturing people, which is evil, but hes self-sacrificing to the point of almost getting himself killed in an exploding building so he could save a friend, which is good. Hence, he is mostly neutral.
(Psi)SeveredHead
Adventurer
This is one reason why I prefer D20 Modern - more appropriate alignments.
There is no magic in 24. This means there are no supernatural forces based around good and evil.
Instead, I would use the D20 Modern allegiance system - Jack Bauer would have an allegiance to the United States. He will do literally anything to protect it. After that allegiance (meaning less important) might come allegiances like law or good. IMO, his allegiances to law and good are not strong enough to count as allegiances, so I would just give him an allegiance to the United States, and maybe to his closest allies as well.
There is no magic in 24. This means there are no supernatural forces based around good and evil.
Instead, I would use the D20 Modern allegiance system - Jack Bauer would have an allegiance to the United States. He will do literally anything to protect it. After that allegiance (meaning less important) might come allegiances like law or good. IMO, his allegiances to law and good are not strong enough to count as allegiances, so I would just give him an allegiance to the United States, and maybe to his closest allies as well.
