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1. That is a good sign on expanding their portifolio.
2.As Wotc did not so, for whatever the reason (Hasbro had their hands all over it anyway).
The open beta testing done by Pazio, was a sign of respect and trust to the public at large. These are same folks who can make or break your product. That is the Truth. I can say this for good reason, because folks who were involved or very aware of both beta testings of 4E and Pathfinder at those times.
Gave me their insights, and it was like night and day...literally. Second, as a buying customer myself. I found that not giving a means to here my 'voice' heard on how a future product should function, even though it can be held as suggestions.
Left me with the undeniable impression, that there was no trust or respect given (speaking of Wotc not doing a open beta test), as a customer.
As mentioned as before, Pazio did...and that is all that has to be said.
From a business end...I did understand at one point on why WOTC did that approach.
They needed to get new blood (face it, we old ones are not around in great mass as we use to be). And I did hear comments to that effect on the release on the books, that folks who never, ever played D&D at all. Were being drawn to it, on it's 'ease of use' to run a game.
At the same time, many and many 3.5 materials existing in mass quantity, was about to go the way of the dodo bird.
And many folks were not happy (including me), on being 'forced' to suddenly chuck (not the tv show) that one system (on which a lot of money was spent, e.g. The entire Eberron setting book collection render almost useless). At the time of 4E release, with no conversion help, right there and then.
As someone said here too, it like saying, "Sorry, ye must abandon that ship, row the lifeboat or swim across that crazy ocean, to get our new ship, and that is it".
As one old 3.5 customer said to me, on the opening of 4E World game day, "I think I spent enough, serveral thousands dollars enough". and there was nothing to say, to change that person's mind.
That was then...(and I knew what he meant...he felt abandoned).
And yupo, yupe...you are absolutely correct, if WOtc did a open beta test, folks would have stayed. But some folks would have left too...for their own reasons or how the company treated them as customers.
It is not a perfect world...but the first rule of business is...don't bite the hand that feeds you.
And a lot of us, would like to keep those 10 fingers around for a long time.
2.As Wotc did not so, for whatever the reason (Hasbro had their hands all over it anyway).
The open beta testing done by Pazio, was a sign of respect and trust to the public at large. These are same folks who can make or break your product. That is the Truth. I can say this for good reason, because folks who were involved or very aware of both beta testings of 4E and Pathfinder at those times.
Gave me their insights, and it was like night and day...literally. Second, as a buying customer myself. I found that not giving a means to here my 'voice' heard on how a future product should function, even though it can be held as suggestions.
Left me with the undeniable impression, that there was no trust or respect given (speaking of Wotc not doing a open beta test), as a customer.
As mentioned as before, Pazio did...and that is all that has to be said.
From a business end...I did understand at one point on why WOTC did that approach.
They needed to get new blood (face it, we old ones are not around in great mass as we use to be). And I did hear comments to that effect on the release on the books, that folks who never, ever played D&D at all. Were being drawn to it, on it's 'ease of use' to run a game.
At the same time, many and many 3.5 materials existing in mass quantity, was about to go the way of the dodo bird.
And many folks were not happy (including me), on being 'forced' to suddenly chuck (not the tv show) that one system (on which a lot of money was spent, e.g. The entire Eberron setting book collection render almost useless). At the time of 4E release, with no conversion help, right there and then.
As someone said here too, it like saying, "Sorry, ye must abandon that ship, row the lifeboat or swim across that crazy ocean, to get our new ship, and that is it".
As one old 3.5 customer said to me, on the opening of 4E World game day, "I think I spent enough, serveral thousands dollars enough". and there was nothing to say, to change that person's mind.
That was then...(and I knew what he meant...he felt abandoned).
And yupo, yupe...you are absolutely correct, if WOtc did a open beta test, folks would have stayed. But some folks would have left too...for their own reasons or how the company treated them as customers.
It is not a perfect world...but the first rule of business is...don't bite the hand that feeds you.
And a lot of us, would like to keep those 10 fingers around for a long time.
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