considering how bad they where burned with there last movie deal, this seems unlikely.
D&D 5E Is R.A. Salvatore's "Hero" the last Forgotten Realms book?
That deal was made by the notoriously mismanaged TSR. We are talking here about a (hypothetical) deal between Hasbro and Warner Bros. Those guys know how this stuff works.
Remember that Hasbro is in it for the MONEY. They don't really care that the previous D&D movies were failures. (Actually those movies made a lot of money -- just not for Wizards.) They only care about the transaction with Warner Bros., and if they can make more money by letting WB handle the novel line, they'd do it in a heartbeat.
(DISCLAIMER: I still have no idea what I'm talking about! I love this thread!)
Even though in the Tome Show interview she said that Ashes of the Tyrant was supposed to be the last one novel and then she managed to negotiate one more?
I understand that she wants to remain professional with Wotc but there were no hints that anything is in the pipe line at all.
EbbTide808
First Post
agreed. It was actually stated clearly that she was now going off and creating her own thing, which meant she had to come up with her own magic system and geography, the idea of doing which she thought sucked.
I was listening to see if WotC was going to speak to why it was the last one, but they never did. I didn't actually expect them too, but one can hope.
Jester David
Hero
Transformers was one example. Star Wars might be more apt.
Still, you don't want the novels going off and doing one thing, while the movies do another, while the games do a third. Not until you have an idea how successful the movies are.
The twice annual storyline? Maybe a little. But the events of those are only somewhat canon and the specifics are uncertain.
And how many novels are they expected to read before writing a movie?
Every FR? All twenty-ish Drizzt novels? Just the last couple dozen? The ten or so since the Sundering came out?
They had a summit for the Sundering. But I'm not sure they do that for every novel. They likely just have one staff member coordinate with the writers.
EbbTide808
First Post
im pretty sure that sweet pea never gave up the movie rights that warmer and Hasbro were trying to sue to acquire back, and that's why sweet pea is co-producing. I also don't believe Hasbro is going to give up the rights to the D&D brand. That's actually the most valuable part. The rpg just sustains the brand. If they can partner with Warner and successfully turn it into a franchise like marvel or lotr, it will make both of them tons of cash. Also, Hasbro is never giving up the rights to action figures. It's what they do. Again, I expect here that they're entering into a partnership that's mutually beneficial.
That at being said, I don't think wizards killed the book line due to lack of profitability. And I have difficulty with the whole idea that multiple writers can't write in the same setting without causing continuity problems in the cannon. That's the whole point of Chri Perkins producing a story bible, which is a very standard thing to do when you're trying to align novels, comics, video games, movies, etc in the same universe.
But it does make sense that they're trying to focus their message, and probably reduce their "hero" characters as the movie gets closer.
Mecheon
Sacabambaspis
Hasbro wanted the rights back if anything. D&D's movie rights are a horrific quagmire few people understand and fewer people want to get involved with, and that's before you get into whatever is the deal with the fact that Chainmail might have separate rights that people thought were the D&D rights.
Yup. I think I've said a few times there's no way they're going to make a Dritz movie because that is basically bad PR waiting to happen, but if they might try something
(I just want them to just turn the IDW comics into a movie, because that was some good comic)
Willie the Duck
Hero
I could only speculate, as that being the issue was also merely speculation. I was simply saying that we don't know that it was a lie vs. them changing their position.
Given the number of properties that wiped away well built up continuities (star trek, star wars, spider man) to accommodate new properties, it definitely seems that a nebulous continuity is an easier row to hoe.
Those are really good points, and I hope you are right. That's a good insight about Hasbro producing the action figures. And a mutual partnership thing sounds like a good move, considering how involved Hasbro has been with both film merchandise AND the existing fan-base for D&D.
But as you say, "The D&D brand is the most valuable part." But how valuable is it? My guess is that the profits from a SINGLE action-movie blockbuster vastly exceed the value of the D&D brand name, and that Hasbro would be willing to sell if the price was right.
However I think it's more likely that you are right and that Hasbro kept the brand, like with Transformers and G.I. Joe.
(DISCLAIMER: I'm still just making stuff up! This is so fun!)
Has anyone heard anything regarding the Troy Denning Orcus novel? Chris Perkins mentions it specifically in the forward to Out of the Abyss. I bet that would have been a fun read, I always wondered what the Demon Prince of the Undead was doing down there in the Underdark. I think his storyline was supposed to be explored in Sword Coast Legends ... or Neverwinter ... or something else, perhaps just this lost novel.
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