Parmandur
Book-Friend, he/him
I've only recently come to this conclusion, despite first getting into the Forgotten Realms in 2014, lol.FR ended publication in 1989, and I'll knife-fight anyone who says otherwise.
I've only recently come to this conclusion, despite first getting into the Forgotten Realms in 2014, lol.FR ended publication in 1989, and I'll knife-fight anyone who says otherwise.
FR ended publication in 1989, and I'll knife-fight anyone who says otherwise.
It is not my primary setting (I have an extensive Homebrew), but I have run adventures since the 1980s - and I pretty much always come back to 1357 DR with young adventurers exploration of my version of the Haunted Halls of Eveningstar. There is no Kelemvor in my setting. No Time of Troubles or Spell Plague.FR ended publication in 1989, and I'll knife-fight anyone who says otherwise.
This is clearly false since the Forgotten Realms is the biggest, most popular setting due to being the default for several editions, and Nentir Vale, being former default, produced a lot of things the entire IP uses to great effect (Tieflings, Raven Queen, etc). Being default setting is big -- it's the setting most people first "taste" D&D with, or at least learn the base concepts through. Let's not pretend that being the most talked about, most adventured, and most written-about setting in the franchise by a significant margin is "meaningless.""Default setting" is such a meaningless term. Whether it is or it isn't doesn't change anything. WotC will produce what they want when they want it in whatever setting they wish.
Calling it "default" or arguing over whether it is the "default" is what is meaningless. It doesn't matter. You are absolutely correct that most of the WotC adventure paths were written in Faerun locations and that odds are that people who do not create their own setting for their game will use Faerun over other previously published ones. No argument there. But so what? Why does that matter? It doesn't. So the folks here having pissing matches over "Faerun is the default setting!" "No, it isn't, it's the D&D Multiverse!" so on and so forth are just arguing over nothing. Because no one will eventually accede to the other and say "Okay, you are right.", and even if they did... again, so what? That's not going to change WotC's behavior. WotC will still to do what they do regardless of what gets "agreed upon" here on the boards.This is clearly false since the Forgotten Realms is the biggest, most popular setting due to being the default for several editions, and Nentir Vale, being former default, produced a lot of things the entire IP uses to great effect (Tieflings, Raven Queen, etc). Being default setting is big -- it's the setting most people first "taste" D&D with, or at least learn the base concepts through. Let's not pretend that being the most talked about, most adventured, and most written-about setting in the franchise by a significant margin is "meaningless."
Well it does matter IMO, because the default setting is what the focus of the adventure, book, video game, and similar materials are on. This, in turn, defines the feel of the overall game for a lot of people. If the default setting was Planescape and not FR, that might indicate a change in overall tone, color pallate, narrative aesthetics, character options, and so on. And the growing multiverse-focus is, IMO, a response to people's desire for more homebrew, more race options, and a desire to always new cool new things in Fantasy. However, I disagree with OP that the FR isn't the default setting, but yeah, I'd say it isn't meaningless that FR is default setting.Calling it "default" or arguing over whether it is the "default" is what is meaningless. It doesn't matter. You are absolutely correct that most of the WotC adventure paths were written in Faerun locations and that odds are that people who do not create their own setting for their game will use Faerun over other previously published ones. No argument there. But so what? Why does that matter? It doesn't. So the folks here having pissing matches over "Faerun is the default setting!" "No, it isn't, it's the D&D Multiverse!" so on and so forth are just arguing over nothing. Because no one will eventually accede to the other and say "Okay, you are right.", and even if they did... again, so what? That's not going to change WotC's behavior. WotC will still to do what they do regardless of what gets "agreed upon" here on the boards.
Of course people are still going to argue here about it if for no other reason that it's something easy to argue about and why else are all of us posters here if not to just argue meaningless arguments because we have nothing better to do? LOL! Heck... MY post was a meaningless post too! I can admit that. My post that asked "Why are you all wasting your time arguing about this when it doesn't matter?" is just as much a post of me just filling my time as your post was countering mine. So it's cool. We're just talking for the sake of talking because why not? Beats working.![]()
That depends on hat your definition of “is” is.Calling it "default" or arguing over whether it is the "default" is what is meaningless. It doesn't matter. You are absolutely correct that most of the WotC adventure paths were written in Faerun locations and that odds are that people who do not create their own setting for their game will use Faerun over other previously published ones. No argument there. But so what? Why does that matter? It doesn't. So the folks here having pissing matches over "Faerun is the default setting!" "No, it isn't, it's the D&D Multiverse!" so on and so forth are just arguing over nothing. Because no one will eventually accede to the other and say "Okay, you are right.", and even if they did... again, so what? That's not going to change WotC's behavior. WotC will still to do what they do regardless of what gets "agreed upon" here on the boards.
Of course people are still going to argue here about it if for no other reason that it's something easy to argue about and why else are all of us posters here if not to just argue meaningless arguments because we have nothing better to do? LOL! Heck... MY post was a meaningless post too! I can admit that. My post that asked "Why are you all wasting your time arguing about this when it doesn't matter?" is just as much a post of me just filling my time as your post was countering mine. So it's cool. We're just talking for the sake of talking because why not? Beats working.![]()
You don't have to. And there's no reason to. Just like there's no real reason for me to write this response back.I'm not going to engage with the "all our convos are meaningless" rhetoric because it is unironically meaningless. I'm not sure how I'm supposed to respond or care about you saying all written communication on this topic is meaningless.
Ok.You don't have to. And there's no reason to. Just like there's no real reason for me to write this response back.
But we do it because it's a few minutes of entertainment for each of us to craft a post and then post it, even though we both know that our actions are not creating any tangible results. Neither of us is changing the other's mind and we certainly are not impacting anyone else in this thread (other than perhaps clogging it a little with our sidebar). But that doesn't mean we still can't enjoy ourselves writing it. I know I do!