Samloyal23
Adventurer
If so, where? If not, what would need to be changed?
Pathfinder 1E Is There An Official Warlock Conversion?
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Ahnehnois
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Not an official one, no. It's not open. Paizo has stuck to citing open content or creating their own rather than trying to emulate all the non-OGL 3e supplements. There are a number of unofficial takes on it that you can google up.
For it to work mechanically, you wouldn't have to change much. However, just in terms of revising a class that only appeared once, it would probably be wise to change a lot. It needs some boosting to make it more interesting and get it up to the PF power level; more invocations, more damage, etc.
For it to work mechanically, you wouldn't have to change much. However, just in terms of revising a class that only appeared once, it would probably be wise to change a lot. It needs some boosting to make it more interesting and get it up to the PF power level; more invocations, more damage, etc.
Kinak
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There won't be an official conversion because the warlock was never added to the System Resource Document (so, under the OGL, companies other than Wizards of the Coast can't refer to it).
Little Red Goblin Games made an Invoker that was a conversion of the warlock, but their stuff's been down for a while due to OGL issues. Not sure when it might be back.
Cheers!
Kinak
Starfox
Hero
Only the core books of 3E and 3.5 were ever OGL. This means that classes like the spirit shaman, warlock, favored soul, scout, beguiler, warmage, warlock, and knight cannot be converted directly to Pathfinder. And yet there are Pathfinder oracles, magi, and cavaliers. Someone might make a warlock-like class for Pathfinder, but it will carry another name.
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gamerprinter
Mapper/Publisher
Actually none of the later books - ToB, etc are OGL either. Why is the name "warlock" so important, just use a different name and different wording for the fluff and make whatever class design you want. Knowing that some words/names can be owned by their creator - so don't use those names. If you intend to publish a 3PP version, rename it. Why pine over someone else's choice of names (who cares) just come up with a different synonymous word and use it - end of problem.
Starfox
Hero
This is one thing I love about Pathfinder - because they are publishing under OGL, they HAVE to make their rules OGL too. No proprietary rules here. Towards the end of 3.5, this was a major problem - there was so much non-OGL stuff out there than the game as a whole could no longer be said to be OGL and couldn't be used for new OGL projects.
gamerprinter
Mapper/Publisher
Really in the last five or so years, I've been wanting (and have succeeded) in publishing 3PP material for RPGs, so a given system's license is critical for me to even look at as a GM/player. If the license for a system is like the GSA (what 4e was published under), I don't want anything to do with it. Since PF is completely OGL, I find it attractive as a potential publisher and as a regular player. If a game doesn't have the ability to let me publish content for it - I won't even look at it, even if its a perfectly fun game without consideration whether it is open or not. Because I could potentially create content for any game I play, if the rules aren't open, I'm probably not playing it.
When I've given negative flak to WotC in the past, its because their license isn't condusive to create 3PP content. I'm sure 4e (and probably Next) is a perfectly fun game, but since it's not very open (aside from create fluff and only use published mechanics), I'm not going to even consider it as a game at my table. Its this reason alone, that I will never look at any future game published by WotC (unless they were to shock me and release a game under OGL or a similar license.)
Alzrius
The EN World kitten
Not to be pedantic...actually, yes, to be very pedantic, the Core Books themselves were not OGL. Rather, an SRD (technically two SRDs; one for 3.0 and another for 3.5...and a third for d20 Modern, but that's another story) that had much of the material from the Core Rules was put under the OGL.
Said SRD was not only limited to the Core Rules either. It also had material from the Psionics Handbook, Expanded Psionics Handbook, Epic Level Handbook, and Deities and Demigods.
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gamerprinter
Mapper/Publisher
Which is why I thank the gods d20pfsrd.com is not some limited 7 book SRD, rather everything that Paizo publishes OGL/OGC, and most 3PP Pathfinder creators. Heck, I've got Kaidan stuff on traits, feats, class archetypes, races of Kaidan (kappa, tengu, henge), even variant rules posted there.
