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5E Is there even a new D&D setting?

Though we’ve been speculating about what the new setting recently pre-announced for D&D might or might not be (Icewind Dale being one suggestion), there's some doubt about whether it exists at all!

The press release that was sent out said:

Fans of D&D will learn all about the new setting and storyline as well as accompanying new products


The web page for the event says:

Fans of D&D will learn all about the new storyline as well as accompanying new products


The word “setting” is missing from the web page, but exists in the press release. The text is the same otherwise.

I don’t know which order the two were written in, or if the latter changed, or if the former contains extra information.
 
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I suspect we'll eventually see a completely new Magic setting, perhaps a full Wizards of the Coast media event.
That would be an interesting way to market a truly new setting - get the Magic and D&D teams to work together to create a new setting that works for both. The trick would be to find a way to really give it a unique identity. But it could be a WotC marketing juggernaut.
 

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Chronos96

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It's two words on a single statement ("new setting"). It's less indicative of a strategy if it's just a mistake if they meant the word setting in the "it's a place where you are."
Hence why I put setting/adventure. I don't mean to come across as snippy but we as fans go through this every year.
They obviously mean the "new" setting of the adventure. It's been like this the last four years or so.

We'll get an adventure and then we'll have at least one supplemental product like Volo's announced.


I used the term marketing strategy referring to the fact that it would be odd for Wizards's to announce Theros as one of the products on the upcoming stream considering the product's already been announced. Anybody who thinks that they're going to waste an announcement slot on a previously announced product is crazy. I'm not saying that they won't highlight it due to Covid but I'm 99% percent sure we'll have at least two new products announced just like we have the last 3-4 years now.
 

Mercurius

Legend
I can’t remember for certain, but I think they said that they were going to talk about the new adventure and setting. As I’ve previously said, this almost certainly means the new story arc and either Theros or the setting of the story arc. If it is Theros, it simply means that they’re going to talk about it — not re-announce it.
 

I can’t remember for certain, but I think they said that they were going to talk about the new adventure and setting. As I’ve previously said, this almost certainly means the new story arc and either Theros or the setting of the story arc. If it is Theros, it simply means that they’re going to talk about it — not re-announce it.
Those are two different things. With Theros coming online soon and to stores later (speaking as a retailer, I'm frustrated by this, but I get logistics have been difficult) they will absolutely be talking about Theros over the next month.

... But they also said there would be an announcement soon. The words "new setting" were used, but then dropped (probably due to not wanting to cause confusion - the original line was probably a mistake).

I expect we will have a lot of talk about Theros soon, along with an announcement of the fall's book (probably an Icewind dale adventure, but it could be anything) and maybe another book?
 

Mercurius

Legend
Those are two different things. With Theros coming online soon and to stores later (speaking as a retailer, I'm frustrated by this, but I get logistics have been difficult) they will absolutely be talking about Theros over the next month.

... But they also said there would be an announcement soon. The words "new setting" were used, but then dropped (probably due to not wanting to cause confusion - the original line was probably a mistake).

I expect we will have a lot of talk about Theros soon, along with an announcement of the fall's book (probably an Icewind dale adventure, but it could be anything) and maybe another book?
First, a question: What do you "online soon and to stores later?" I thought both were July 21?

The original phrase was "Fans of D&D will learn about the new setting and storyline." This has already been beaten to death, but "learn about" isn't the same as "announced." It could be "learn more about" Theros, or "learn about the setting for the storyline, Icewind Dale."

They probably removed the setting part because people were misconstruing it as a new setting other than Theros or the story arc.
 


By "everyone" I assume you mean everyone on ENWorld and similar on and off-line contexts, inhabited by long-term D&D fans, and we may now be their secondary marketing target, distantly beyond the many more new and more casual fans.
Actually, I am their primary market. I'm just here to spy on y'all.
 


They probably removed the setting part because people were misconstruing it as a new setting other than Theros or the story arc.
Yeah, it's highly unlikely that they'll announce a new setting or 4th book for this year. My best guess for this "setting" is Planescape, but it doesn't really count as a setting, exactly, or new.
 

This is off-topic (but, strangely, completely on-topic at the same time) but I find myself wishing for some kind of AI/NLP algorithm that would change the title of a thread as the topic drifted, and show all the previous titles with a mouse-over. That way you could glance at a thread in the forum list and immediately kind of get a sense for where it has wandered.
 


I can’t remember for certain, but I think they said that they were going to talk about the new adventure and setting. As I’ve previously said, this almost certainly means the new story arc and either Theros or the setting of the story arc. If it is Theros, it simply means that they’re going to talk about it — not re-announce it.
The press release (which would have been sent out in advance) said they where going to "talk about the new setting and storyline", but by the time it hit the website it was changed to "talk about the new storyline".

(it's in the OP)
 

I'm sticking to my guns on a reimagined War of the Lance without pregenerated characters. I think it would be a great way to revamp the setting and put it in the hands of the DM and their players.
We had this already. It was called "Tyranny of Dragons." They chose to set it in Fae'Run, but it would be incredibly easy to port it back to Dragonlance as the book not only provides tips for doing just that, but the older modules could be used as a guide point quite easily.

I for one have been a longtime proponent of Dragonlance as a setting, though my opinions on the setting aren't the typical norm you see on forums of either the "original trilogy or bust!" purists or "I hate kender and therefore the entire setting" statements that tend to pop up. To be clear I am not knocking those opinions and I understand why people feel that way, but I am a strong defender of the Age of Mortals bringing the setting up to date from a gaming standpoint. I set my Dragonlance games right after the War of Souls because in my opinion it provides MUCH more flexibility and freedom than the War of the Lance era for character builds, plot lines, etc. due to there being far more uncertainty in the world and stuff like the "death" of two gods fits quite well with the narrative with the setting, at least how I see it. It also means I don't have to jump through 1000 hoops to justify what are now baseline game mechanics and have been since 3.0 (dragonborn players, sorcerers, bards, etc.).

The other reason I avoid the War of the Lance like the plague is that it also lets me emphasize what I find the settings truth strength to be compared to Fae'run: the players feel like their actions never truly effect the world. In a setting where there is basically a 15th level character in every other room the players never really feel like they are actually the heroes of the story.
 

We had this already. It was called "Tyranny of Dragons." They chose to set it in Fae'Run, but it would be incredibly easy to port it back to Dragonlance as the book not only provides tips for doing just that, but the older modules could be used as a guide point quite easily.
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I'm interested to hear what you think War of the Lance and Tyranny of Dragons have in common besides the very broad "they both have dragons and a five-headed dragon goddess", because other than that they precisely nothing in common. Heck, Decent to Avernus is by that definition equally a remake of Dragonlance as well, as would be the '80s D&D cartoon...
 

I'm interested to hear what you think War of the Lance and Tyranny of Dragons have in common besides the very broad "they both have dragons and a five-headed dragon goddess", because other than that they precisely nothing in common. Heck, Decent to Avernus is by that definition equally a remake of Dragonlance as well, as would be the '80s D&D cartoon...
It is more than just that. The story is about a ragtag group of players who come our of nowhere to save a small trade town from a dragon attack with an evil army heavily aligned to it's element led by a dragon man that, and pushes them towards dealing with a cult that is organized by several different subcults/armies each dedicated to 5 different elements of evil dragons that all serve a five headed dragon goddess. Also most of these armies are led by other dragon men, and one evil female knight.

Along the way the party deals with a dragon hatchery guarded by an angry mother dragon, seeks out help from a universally hated evil country [thay], likely gets help from a setting famous wizard that is also a demigod [the open lord of waterdeep], fights a large white dragon in a flying ice castle as a mid boss for the campaign (albeit in DL's case flying castle and the white dragon were separate events), and all the while trying to find a magic plot macguffin to prevent the return of the EvilDragonHydraGoddessOCDoNotSteal! Don't get me wrong, I love the original trilogy and the newer version of it, but I'd be hard pressed making ToD NOT seem to just be a rewrite of the war of the lance to any dragonlance fans in my game.
 

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