Is Vow of Poverty broken?

[pbd]

Yup. The up-side for the other players is that they can give the VoP character the magic items that are most useless for their value, since he doesn't care if he can use it since he's just going to sell it.

Not even sell it, but give it away!

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Most classes can make it work; fighter or ranger may be a stretch, but I don't think it would be terrible to allow a single non-simple (maybe bow or longsword), non-magical family heirloom weapon to included.

I wouldn't, personally. The VoP PC still has access to crossbows and the Morningstar- both solid weapons.

Not even sell it, but give it away!

I'd allow a sale, assuming all proceeds went to charity.

 

[Rystil Arden]

Not even sell it, but give it away!

Well, they'd probably would sell the item and give the proceeds to charity. I think we just found the perfect use for the Ring of Elemental Command (Water)

 

[FireLance]

A player wants to be a Paladin/Monk (taking the monastic training feat in Eberron which allows you to multiclass with one other class as a monk).

Side comment: Ascetic Knight from Complete Adventurer is much better for a paladin/monk since it allows you to multiclass freely between paladin and monk and gives some extra benefits as well (monk and paladin levels stack for unarmed strike damage and smite evil damage).

 

[Drowbane]

A player wants to be a Paladin/Monk (taking the monastic training feat in Eberron which allows you to multiclass with one other class as a monk). He wants to take Vow of Poverty. I've never seen it in use but, looking at it, it doesn't look that powerful in some areas and overpowered in others. How does it balance out? Is it broken?

No.

Vow of Poverty isn't remotely overpowered. Nor is it broken.

The above only remains true if your DM keeps everybody close to (or slightly above) wealth-standard by level. If your DM also makes sure you roleplay your Exalted status as well... the feat becomes almost weak.

Yeah, I said it!

One of my favorite characters of all time was a Gestalt Monk / Paladin with Vows: Peace and Poverity. So much fun... (read: tough to Roleplay)

 

[Mistwell]

Unbalanced on the weak side I would suspect, right?

No, not at all. A sorceror or wizard with VoP is too powerful.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Well, they'd probably would sell the item and give the proceeds to charity. I think we just found the perfect use for the Ring of Elemental Command (Water)

You mean for the Temple Chariot & Cart Wash fundraiser?

 

[Bront]

A player wants to be a Paladin/Monk (taking the monastic training feat in Eberron which allows you to multiclass with one other class as a monk). He wants to take Vow of Poverty. I've never seen it in use but, looking at it, it doesn't look that powerful in some areas and overpowered in others. How does it balance out? Is it broken?

FYI, technicaly, he also needs to take the feat to multiclass as a Paladin.

There are also 2 feats that let a Monk/Paladin cross over some of their skills in the Complete Adventurer.

 

[Rystil Arden]

No, not at all. A sorceror or wizard with VoP is too powerful.

He can't use a large number of his spells now (foci or material components), and the wizard could've been crafting far better items for himself (now he can't use item creation and he has to focus on metamagic with those bonus feats, which isn't so great for wizards). He's become significantly weakened now.

 

[Bront]

VoP is flavorful, and potentialy powerful, but is are many items. If he can RP with it, I think it won't be under or over powered. The Monk and Paladin have few synergistic abilities, and it will take as many as 4 feats to fix that, which means 6th or 9th level till he gets rolling, not counting VOP.

I don't think it's a bit issue, and think it won't cause much of a problem, especialy if you give out items at a somewhat reasonable level.