Is your love for 3E waning? Waxing? Staying steady?

[JoeGKushner]

I actually didn't like 3rd edition when it came out. I had a lot of time and money, not to mention ongoing campaigns, in 2nd edition that I didn't want to port over to 3rd.

I didn't. Stopped DMing for a long while even. Slowly but surely I came around to the idea that the PrCs replaced Kits, but did so in a cool way, feats were cool, the system was much expanded and improved on, and only Monte's foolish theft of the XP system from Rolemaster (which I still hate), gives me any cause to cringe.

I'm a little producted out though but I'm still enjoying everything as it comes down the pipeline.

 

[arwink]

For DnD, not exactly waning, but it's lost a bit of the gloss and slightly more tarnished. Now that I'm over the fact of how much better than 2e it is, I'm looking at things a lot more objectively than I did in the first year or so, and I'm slowly starting to find things I actually miss (few things, and they're mostly minor twinges).

My enthusiasm for D20 stuff is definately waxing though. I"m becoming more and more interested in non-DnD options using the rules, I love the amount of mini-games, and I love how easy it is to convert thing from one system to another. I'm already planning a super-heroic sci-fi game when my current DnD games end, merging the 4CtF and Blood and Space rules

 

[clark411]

3rd edition is a pretty elegant rule set. still learning it after over two years of play, but it's great. So I'm steady. However- I dislike a lot of the stuff coming out that is supposed to add to character power, as I'm an advocate of balancing the rise in power / the availability of options between friend and foe.

Mostly I'm waxing as the system becomes more clear over time, and if I ever wane, it's only when my character is blerg or the campaign's not enjoyable. The rules are just to play the game, they aren't the game itself- and remembering that at the table keeps me enjoying the time spent BOOTING EVIL!

 

[DDK]

Wax on... wax off... wax on... wax off...

It's not so much that I go from liking the system to disliking it, it's more that the trials and tribulations of getting a group together can be an epic quest unto itself and is somewhat emotionally and mentally draining; players are such mind flayers

Overall, d20 is my favourite system due to much of what everyone else has said about it. Other systems, I've found, always lack in some area or another to a degree that I find unacceptable.

GURPS would be my favourite 'for instance'. I absolutely love the GURPS character creation rules however the system falls completely apart once you get to around 250-300 point characters and the combat resolution is... ugh.

Rulesmonster (Rolemaster) is just so incredibly convoluted as to be unplayable... FOR ME.

WoD sounds like a cool setting but the system is odd, to say the least.

Hackmaster? Blah, no thanks. I dumped 2nd ed. because it was incredibly lame, why the hell would I want a rehash of it?

And then you have your niche systems that are setting specific, usually based on some tv show or other like Buffy or Star Trek. I've heard the new Buffy book (D6) isn't too bad, but a friend of mine who is an avid ST fan looked through the various ST books and came away feeling like he'd just lost a few IQ points.

D20 is not necessarily the be all and end all, but in my honest opinion, it's the best there is out there and, just to be clear, the best FOR ME.

The fact that the company is listening to the fans and updating the ruleset to comply with popular demand is, to me, friggin' excellent. I don't necessarily agree with everyone elses desired changes, but on the whole I have similar wishes and therefore the system can only get better for me.

If only they'd introduce a classless, hit pointless system, then I'd be truly in heaven

 

[Thresher]

3E is probably the best thing to happen to D&D since dice
It is a vast improvement over second edition and a lot more balenced, in terms of system rules and letting players build characters that they would like to play. Something that 2E made very inflexable, it was a very ridgid system that didnt allow for a lot of creativity. As a result I found myself leaving 2E some years ago and went into other systems that where better balenced and lent themselves to creative play. I mean, you could adapt 2E to make it free-form in terms of rules but you really where making a lot of work for yourself.
3E stands up on its own 2 feet a lot better in my opinion.

However, my gripe with it is perhaps the 'transition' between 2E to 3E dosent work very well for existing player characters and DM's wanting to bring their notes over into the new game. What I did notice comming over was that I lost of lot of my main characters 'integrity', I was having to lose quite a bit in terms of what the character was in 2E and what it is in 3E. Sure, you gain a lot more in terms of creativity, skills, feats and the like, with them but soon realise that it only speads so far before the character isnt really what it was and you have a whole new animal on your hands. It has a much more different feel to it and there is a lot of the player 'twinking' that goes on that I think detracts a bit away from the 'role' side and more into the 'roll' area.
Dont know, maybe this area could have seen a lot more development than it got to make the transition a bit easier for some of us oldies that still play.

Not that I would EVER go back to 2E! Oh god no...

 

[LostSoul]

For D&D, it's about the same.

For d20, it's waxing. Now that I can see all the different things that d20 can do, it's great.

 

[Dr. Strangemonkey]

Waxing!!!

Though I never wane...

...curses someone has already used the wax on wax off joke.

Seriously though, it's just taken me this long to really digest and use the material I have and the products that are coming out now are a lot more useable than the initial run of stuff.

I mean Scarred Lands has only had a general campaign book for a few months now. Who knows what the future will bring?

 

[Ace]

Waning a bit. My taste in games runs to systems with very little prep work

I like 3e quite a bit but actually making an adventure or shudder a campaign is far too much workfor the rewrad I get

I think it is someone group related as I just don't like the mix of people in the group

3 of the people I like but the mix, No...

And finding new gamers is just not going to happen

 

[Hygric]

For DnD.. I would say that the gaming moon is full. It's good right now, but soon will start to wane.

For D20.. waxing in that there are one or two home brew concepts that I think would work great with the D20 rules, but waning as well because I am getting over-stuffed with D20 produce.

For non D20 / DnD.. waxing, I have a real hankering to do some SLA Industries as a break of pace. Although Sulimo's thought about Buffy could be amusing (especially after reading in another thread about Biff the Vampire Slayer)...

 

[Corinth]

These last couple of years have been some of the best gaming of my 20+ years. D&D3 and d20 saved me from a long, slow spiral out of the hobby that's sustained me for most of my life. Thanks to d20, I've been published once and will be again soon. Thanks to d20, D&D is now better than I remember it to be. Thanks to d20, I'm able to game with far more people now than I ever did before. So far as I see, this is the Second Golden Age of Gaming.

So yeah, it's waxing- hardcore.