Island Empire OOC, (Closed)

[Leif]

That would be pretty bizarre, since Zurrik is not an arcane spellcaster. I guess I could ask Scotley for a waiver based on warlock invocations....

Sorry, I don't get the connection between eunuchs and arcane spellcasters. Zurrik IS a warlock, so wouldn't he qualify to become a Eunuch Warlock?

 

[Scotley]

I forget where I read that little trick, but I did read somewhere that subjects of the spell who leave the AoE become visible when they do so, but if the spell is still in effect, then they become invisible again when they re-enter the AoE. Up to you, though, I guess. I may well want to swap that spell out at my next level, depending upon your ruling, if you'll let me, that is.

I think maybe it was Rhun's game or was it IG's? where we were in and out of the invisibility sphere. That may have been possible in previous editions of the game, but I don't see it in the current spells as an option. The spell description is quite clear that if you leave the area the spell is done for you. Now the attack stuff obviously works, so Gnurl is still invisible. In future, a greater effort will have to be made to keep everyone in the area of effect. If you'd prefer to swap the spell out based on my reading of it, I am more than happy to let you. I really don't want to spoil your fun and there are plenty of other cool spells out there.

 

[Scotley]

Okay, for Zurrik. I'm going to rule that the weapon damage does not apply for hideous blow in much the same way damage from a flaming sword works, only the fire damage applies. However, you've got to do a regular melee attack for hedious blow, where as eldritch blast is ranged touch, so in almost every case where the weapon damage doesn't count I think you'll do better with EB despite the advantages of Warlock's Edge. Either way in this case the damage you did was enough to disrupt the swarm.

 

[Leif]

Lou, don't Warlocks have a way to channel an EB through a weapon's melee attack?

And Scotley, I'll most likely be switching that spell out at Gnurl's next level.

 

[Lou]

Lou, don't Warlocks have a way to channel an EB through a weapon's melee attack?

Yes, it's called Hideous Blow. You roll a melee attack, and if it hits, the weapon does normal damage plus the eldritch blast damage. That's exactly what Zurrik did to the swarm.

Swarms are immune to normal weapon damage. The question is whether the Hideous Blow causes the sword to be equivalent to a flaming sword, etc. where the weapon damage all takes effect on the swarm due to the energy portion of the attack. It's a close question.

I have no problem with Scotley's ruling that the weapon damage is not passed through to the swarm using a Hideous Blow. In this case, the Hideous Blow eldritch blast damage is enough to disperse the swarm headed directly towards Gnurl. It's just too bad I rolled a possible critical hit when I cannot use it.

Scotley's comment that an Eldritch Blast would be better against a swarm is based on the different type of attack--a ranged touch attack rather than a melee attack. Same damage, just easier to hit a swarm with a ranged touch.

Had Zurrik not been successful against the swarm with his melee attack with Hideous Blow, he would have used an Eldritch Blast as his AoO.

 

[Leif]

Thanks, Lou, sorry to beat a dead horse. *neighhh*

 

[Scotley]

Lou, don't Warlocks have a way to channel an EB through a weapon's melee attack?

And Scotley, I'll most likely be switching that spell out at Gnurl's next level.

No need to wait. Since I'm the one raining on the parade and the spell doesn't do what you thought, I'm happy for you to switch it out when next Gnurl memorizes spells. It is still a pretty good spell the way I'm interpreting it, but I understand if you'd rather have something else.

 

[Leif]

No need to wait. Since I'm the one raining on the parade and the spell doesn't do what you thought, I'm happy for you to switch it out when next Gnurl memorizes spells. It is still a pretty good spell the way I'm interpreting it, but I understand if you'd rather have something else.

Cool, thanks! I'll take you up on that offer, and replace Improved Invisibility, 10' radius. I was gonna replace it with Break Enchantment, but since I was replacing a specialty school spell, I figured I'd better replace it with another illusion. The problem is that 5th level illusions all kinda suck, so I had to settle on Shadow Evocation, but that's not one that Gnurl would prepare for a day like today. So I took the liberty of preparing a second Baleful Polymorph! How's that grab ya?

 

[Scotley]

Like a hungry giant squid, consider me grabbed. Sounds like an excellent choice.

 

[renau1g]

You want to see a really crazy giant squid?

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