Item creation from horseback?

[Dinkeldog]

First, everyone take a deep breath before posting. Do not get snippy or worse with each other, thanks.

Second, I would allow a caster to use it to carry him only while concentrating. As soon as he stops concentrating, the disc would slide from beneath him and move to the default position.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Because the spell says is "carries loads for you", and nothing else. A basic principle is that D&D magic gives you what it specifies and no more.

So Bless affects an area of "The caster and all allies within a 50-ft. burst, centered on the caster"... but it only provides a bonus to allies, and not the caster, right?

-Hyp.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Second, I would allow a caster to use it to carry him only while concentrating. As soon as he stops concentrating, the disc would slide from beneath him and move to the default position.

It isn't an issue of concentration, though, it's an issue of direction.

"Some spells allow you to redirect the effect to new targets or areas after you cast the spell. Redirecting a spell is a move action that does not provoke attacks of opportunity."

So I don't see a problem with directing your Floating Disk as a move action, then casting another spell as a standard action, each round.

Casting a full round spell, on the other hand, could cause a problem, since the spell is not 'otherwise directed' that round...

-Hyp.

 

[rrealm]

Bless
Enchantment (Compulsion) [Mind-Affecting]
Level: Clr 1, Pal 1
Components: V, S, DF
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: 50 ft.
Area: The caster and all allies within a 50-ft. burst, centered on the caster
Duration: 1 min./level
Saving Throw: None
Spell Resistance: Yes (harmless)

Bless fills your allies with courage. Each ally gains a +1 morale bonus on attack rolls and on saving throws against fear effects.

Bless counters and dispels bane.​

I think we can all agree that the caster can affect himself with bless. It's the nature of this particular spell and it says so in the area of effect. Although, IMO it’s the spell’s description which is more valid source of information than the statistics above the description and according to this spell description, the caster receive no benefits. Good find Hyp.

 

[Dinkeldog]

It isn't an issue of concentration, though, it's an issue of direction.

"Some spells allow you to redirect the effect to new targets or areas after you cast the spell. Redirecting a spell is a move action that does not provoke attacks of opportunity."

So I don't see a problem with directing your Floating Disk as a move action, then casting another spell as a standard action, each round.

Casting a full round spell, on the other hand, could cause a problem, since the spell is not 'otherwise directed' that round...

-Hyp.

I'm just going for flavor. Have you ever had a piece of styrofoam or a beach ball in the water that you could stay upright on as long as you concentrated solely on staying on top of it, but you got dunked as soon as you got distracted. That's the effect I want to see. I guess I'd be happy with seeing the caster get dunked as soon as he tries to cast a summoning.

 

[Thanee]

Hmm... as a similar question, if you allow to ride in the floating disk... can you lift yourself (slowly 20 ft. per round) with Telekinesis (as long as you concentrate, of course)?

If you concentrate long enough, you could even move large distances this way, since the point of origin moves with you.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Scion]

Dont characters not count as objects?

 

[Hypersmurf]

I think we can all agree that the caster can affect himself with bless. It's the nature of this particular spell and it says so in the area of effect. Although, IMO it’s the spell’s description which is more valid source of information than the statistics above the description and according to this spell description, the caster receive no benefits.

Well, he's part of the area, so he is certainly affected by the spell.

But the bonus doesn't apply to him.

... if we take the "Because the spell says it 'carries loads for you', and nothing else. A basic principle is that D&D magic gives you what it specifies and no more" view.

-Hyp.

 

[Thanee]

Dont characters not count as objects?

Not normally, but Telekinesis does allow to move both, anyways.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Hypersmurf]

Not normally, but Telekinesis does allow to move both, anyways.

Well, you could use it to Bull Rush yourself (including upwards, I presume), but the lifting and manipulating is objects only.

The problem with using Bull Rush or Violent Thrust is that there's nothig keeping you up once you reach the top of your arc...

On the other hand, you could use Telekinesis to lift yourself up by the underwear, and deliberately fail your Will save to resist the Telekinesis of an object in your possession.

-Hyp.