Jack Chick Passes Away

The controversial figure Jack Chick, who published a range of comic books known popularly as "Chick tracts", which attacked a number of activities including Dungeons & Dragons, has passed away. His Dark Dungeons tract was released in 1984 and is often linked to the 1980s paranoia about Satanism and other elements suggested to be part of tabletop roleplaying games. A movie version of that particular tract was also made by JR Ralls.

The controversial figure Jack Chick, who published a range of comic books known popularly as "Chick tracts", which attacked a number of activities including Dungeons & Dragons, has passed away. His Dark Dungeons tract was released in 1984 and is often linked to the 1980s paranoia about Satanism and other elements suggested to be part of tabletop roleplaying games. A movie version of that particular tract was also made by JR Ralls.


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knasser

First Post
A dead jerk is still a jerk, he's just run out of chances to stop being a jerk.

Put very well by Chaser's War on Terror (warning, mild vulgar language for those that dislike such):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXHleozgQ18

EDIT: I should clarify, because the above seems a little petty if you think I'm angry because he criticised D&D, that Jack Chick was a long-time bigot against jews, homosexuals, socialists and others. I'm not actually angry and I wish the best to those who survive him. I even respect those posters above who call to 'rise above it and be better than him' as a laudable sentiment and attitude. But the link did seem apposite.
 
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Zarithar

Adventurer
Back in high school (in the 80s) I had the cover of his "Hi There" tract taped to the inside of my locker. Even then I enjoyed Chick Tracts in an ironic way... of course Dark Dungeons in particular. I can't hate or wish the man ill will because of his beliefs.
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Max_Killjoy

First Post
His attacks on D&D were the tip of the iceberg of what made Chick a reprehensible creature. The world is better off without. One less bigot.
 

Zarithar

Adventurer
I don't think Jack Chick intended to harm anyone. He was basically preaching his religion and trying to get people he saw as sinners to convert. Had he been employing violence to do it, that would be another thing. As it stands though he was just putting his beliefs out there. I don't agree with him, but then again... I don't have to. Freedom of speech and expression and all that.
 

Celebrim

Legend
He was a real life example of the Lawful Stupid alignment.

I feel sorry for him to some extent, because he was his own worst enemy in the causes he cared about. It is undoubted that the turned more people away from his beliefs than he ever persuaded. I can't think of any worse emissaries for Christ with the possible exception of the monks that oversee the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem, because unlike some notorious hate mongers he actually seemed like he might really believe in what he's doing. Regardless of how vilely he portrayed something, he always wanted to redeem people and thought they could change. That is to say, he really seemed to think he was helping save people from hell. Problem was, he never seemed to notice just how his vile portrayal, conspiracy theories, and borderline insane paranoia made him at best a figure of comic fun, and completely revolting to the people he thought he was helping.

He treated everyone and everything alike; it's just that he feared everything alike. He never quite seemed to get that whole "Fear Not" thing. It's little wonder he feared D&D because he thought he lived in a world were pretty much everything in D&D was real, and he was in his mind a Paladin with a pen fighting back the monsters and their cultist servants. That he was a rather skilled inker just made it worse. But there is a fundamental problem with his work. If you hired him, it would be to illustrate a book of vile darkness, not a book of righteousness. He did ugly a lot better than he did beauty, and he did ugly a lot more often than he did beauty. He seemed to have no idea what the word edifying means, despite the fact that he spent his whole life trying to do it. As the harshest example, his obsession with the works of the devil and the power of evil often leapt right into the giving power and glory to Satan territory, with the consequence I've heard more people suggest that they got into Satanism after reading his tracts than those that decided Christianity was for them.

Which suggests that perhaps he wasn't serving who he thought he was. Imagine you believed in something with such zeal you devoted your life to it, only to discover that all your work had been not only wasted effort, but actually harmful to what you believed in. You came to reap the harvest, only to find that you'd been sowing weeds the whole time. Sad.
 

RedSiegfried

First Post
RIP Jack Chick.

As far as Dark Dungeons goes, I expected it to be hilarious but IMO it was meh, okay. Worth a watch if you can see it for free; I was entertained.

Now I must go because I have to RPG EVEN HARDER!
 

knasser

First Post
He seemed to have no idea what the word edifying means, despite the fact that he spent his whole life trying to do it. As the harshest example, his obsession with the works of the devil and the power of evil often leapt right into the giving power and glory to Satan territory, with the consequence I've heard more people suggest that they got into Satanism after reading his tracts than those that decided Christianity was for them.

Superficial similarity to Milton then. He was a very pious man whose great work (Paradise Lost) was intended to glorify god and condemn Satan, but in doing so created a work with vast passages of angels, Jesus and God going on about how great and good they were and bits where Satan spits defiance and refuses to bow. End result is a book that anyone who reads it comes away thinking: "Go Satan! Fight the Man!".
 

Ovinomancer

No flips for you!
Superficial similarity to Milton then. He was a very pious man whose great work (Paradise Lost) was intended to glorify god and condemn Satan, but in doing so created a work with vast passages of angels, Jesus and God going on about how great and good they were and bits where Satan spits defiance and refuses to bow. End result is a book that anyone who reads it comes away thinking: "Go Satan! Fight the Man!".

I suggest you read it again, then. There's nothing heroic about Milton's Satan. He's portrayed as tragic, but it's clearly a screen for his self obsessing and a justification for all of his evil. Mary Shelley's Frankenstein's monster is a clear callback to Milton's Satan.

Milton gave us a great template for sympathetic evil, yes, but the key there is that it's still evil.
 


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