[James Bond] The next movie directed by Denis Villeneuve

I listened to a BBC podcast on Ian Fleming. He was personally more M than Bond, never going on any field missions, but by the same token his team "30 Assult Unit" were much more Dirty Dozen than Bond. I think he called them the "Filthy Assault Unit" or something similar (along with several derogatory racial terms).

The plan to fly a captured german bomber into a bombing raid, set off smoke bombs to look damaged, pretend to crash into the Channel so they could capture german code books from a german pilot recovery boat is just wild stuff. (That mission didn't happen but only because Germany redeployed the boats elsewhere)
 

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James Bond 2149. Bond hunts down nefarious Replicant cyborgs only to discover that Spectre controls them. But in a surprise twist, Spectre is a secret alien organization that sells a new drug called Spice to finance their takeover of the Earth. The Arrival of the bulk of their spaceships is scheduled for 2150.
 


I think that this .... well, this is probably the single best choice they could have made. I will explain-

There are only a handful of truly great directors. Ones that (IMO) you can count on not just to make movies that are consistently good, but also to often make great ... for lack of a better term ... cinema. I think we know most of the names.

But ... most of the truly great directors either wouldn't do a Bond film, or they have such signature styles that even if they were going to do a Bond film ... it could not work. Look, is there anyone who thinks that Wes Anderson would make a Bond film that works as a Bond film? Admittedly, I would love to see it, but it would be a mismatch of style and subject matter.

This isn't always true. I think a lot of people were surprised at how successful Greta Gerwig was at directing Barbie given her prior career- but it wasn't like she had a long career, had been anointed as "great," and had a signature style. But I'd say that if you're looking for a great director, there are two directors that might be able to pull a Bond movie off- Denis Villeneuve and Christopher Nolan. ....maybe Fincher. I'd have to think about Fincher.

If you're familiar with DV's work, you would understand that he isn't just some "ponderous" director- like Nolan, he does have signatures*, but he has proven adept at making movies from source material that is hard to adapt and doing a great job at it.

I see that not everyone here loved his Dune movies. Which is fine- that's certainly a valid opinion. But remember that Dune was hailed as not just a great movie artistically, but was also a box office smash. In retrospect, everyone is like, "Duh." But that source material has a long history of frustrating filmmakers, and before the first movie it was widely seen as a risky gamble to try it again because the source material is ... it's hard to adapt to a film. Don't believe me? Ask Jodorowsky. Or Lynch. Or Ridley Scott. Or David Lean. There were people that called Dune unfilmable and he pulled it off; even if you didn't think it was "all that," it was a success.

Blade Runner 2049 is similar- it didn't do quite as well as hoped at the Box Office (but it made money), but was a critical success and has only become more beloved with time.
Arrival? Made so much money compared to its budget, and was not only a critical success, managed to make a nearly unfilmable concept palatable.

All of that right there is impressive, but its when you look at his earlier films that you see that he can really do it all. The key, in my opinion, is Sicario. He found a way to tell what could be a basic and trite story in a completely different fashion (I won't explain here) and not only made a movie that was artistically successful, but commercially successful.

In other words- there's a handful of great directors. But I will use a sports analogy here- some coaches are great because they have a great system, and they get their team to play it. Other coaches are great because they don't have a single system, and they look at what players they have and they find a way to make what they have the best. Wes Anderson, Quentin Tarantino, Kubrick ... those are all in the first category. But DV is in the second category.

This doesn't mean that his Bond movie will be great, or even good. But I am really excited to see what he puts out.



*In Nolan's Bond movie, would Tom Hardy play a villain that is impossible to understand?
 

I think that this .... well, this is probably the single best choice they could have made. I will explain-

There are only a handful of truly great directors. Ones that (IMO) you can count on not just to make movies that are consistently good, but also to often make great ... for lack of a better term ... cinema. I think we know most of the names.

But ... most of the truly great directors either wouldn't do a Bond film, or they have such signature styles that even if they were going to do a Bond film ... it could not work. Look, is there anyone who thinks that Wes Anderson would make a Bond film that works as a Bond film? Admittedly, I would love to see it, but it would be a mismatch of style and subject matter.

This isn't always true. I think a lot of people were surprised at how successful Greta Gerwig was at directing Barbie given her prior career- but it wasn't like she had a long career, had been anointed as "great," and had a signature style. But I'd say that if you're looking for a great director, there are two directors that might be able to pull a Bond movie off- Denis Villeneuve and Christopher Nolan. ....maybe Fincher. I'd have to think about Fincher.

If you're familiar with DV's work, you would understand that he isn't just some "ponderous" director- like Nolan, he does have signatures*, but he has proven adept at making movies from source material that is hard to adapt and doing a great job at it.

I see that not everyone here loved his Dune movies. Which is fine- that's certainly a valid opinion. But remember that Dune was hailed as not just a great movie artistically, but was also a box office smash. In retrospect, everyone is like, "Duh." But that source material has a long history of frustrating filmmakers, and before the first movie it was widely seen as a risky gamble to try it again because the source material is ... it's hard to adapt to a film. Don't believe me? Ask Jodorowsky. Or Lynch. Or Ridley Scott. Or David Lean. There were people that called Dune unfilmable and he pulled it off; even if you didn't think it was "all that," it was a success.

Blade Runner 2049 is similar- it didn't do quite as well as hoped at the Box Office (but it made money), but was a critical success and has only become more beloved with time.
Arrival? Made so much money compared to its budget, and was not only a critical success, managed to make a nearly unfilmable concept palatable.

All of that right there is impressive, but its when you look at his earlier films that you see that he can really do it all. The key, in my opinion, is Sicario. He found a way to tell what could be a basic and trite story in a completely different fashion (I won't explain here) and not only made a movie that was artistically successful, but commercially successful.

In other words- there's a handful of great directors. But I will use a sports analogy here- some coaches are great because they have a great system, and they get their team to play it. Other coaches are great because they don't have a single system, and they look at what players they have and they find a way to make what they have the best. Wes Anderson, Quentin Tarantino, Kubrick ... those are all in the first category. But DV is in the second category.

This doesn't mean that his Bond movie will be great, or even good. But I am really excited to see what he puts out.



*In Nolan's Bond movie, would Tom Hardy play a villain that is impossible to understand?
Its interesting to see folks assuming a DV Bond film will be a "Dune" version. My guess is that DV has a style that isnt easy for folks to explain so they just point and say, "whatever that is". However, I think DV excels at ambiance and scenes that have time to breath. Its a stark contrast with the break neck speed of 21st century action flicks. While Craig era Bond flicks did adopt the Jason Bourne thousand punches in 10 seconds in tiny apartment on shaky cam style, Bond movies have always had long scenes of exposition in between the action. I think DV will be a great fit in that paradigm and cant wait to see what he puts together. Less, "what will Bond's personality be?" and more "what will the world Bond is in now be like?"
 


DV is very hit and miss for me. I find his films are often on the verge of greatness, gorgeous, trying to deal with some serious questions...but his answers always seem lacking. Dune, for example, is an incredible achievement, but at the same time collapses all of the thematic depth of the books into a very narrow reading. Blade Runner is close to realizing a more modern dystopia but throws in so many generic 'this is what the Bad Future looks like' ideas that blunts anything original it has to say.

That said, the Bond films...I don't get it. I don't find there to be much that is interesting, thematically, there. The franchise has been playing second fiddle to MI for decades now, and it feels to me at least like time to move on.

Despite my reservations, Villeneuve swings for the fences and I appreciate that. Maybe he will do something very original?
 


That said, the Bond films...I don't get it. I don't find there to be much that is interesting, thematically, there. The franchise has been playing second fiddle to MI for decades now, and it feels to me at least like time to move on.
wait..what? You think MI has interesting themes? Not only that, but are better then Bond offerings?
 

That said, the Bond films...I don't get it. I don't find there to be much that is interesting, thematically, there. The franchise has been playing second fiddle to MI for decades now, and it feels to me at least like time to move on.
But isn't Tom Cruise out there saying that MI: Final Reckoning is his final go-around as Ethan Hunt? So, which franchise is moving on?
 

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