The Firebird
Commoner
Neither is interesting thematically. But as action movies MI are far better, imo.
[James Bond] The next movie directed by Denis Villeneuve
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The Firebird
Commoner
Yeah, I mean that is really the problem I think
. MI has had a good run and I think its appropriate to end around now. Bond was written for a particular time and context--cold war spycraft--and it doesn't really connect so many years after the fact. Likewise it has a lot of baggage (esp misogyny). I would prefer to see something new at this point.
Paul Farquhar
Legend
Some of the MI films have been better than recent Bond films (meaning everything after You Only Live Twice). Bit hit and miss though.
I wouldn’t say they have “interesting themes” though. Just enjoyable action scenes.
But “interesting themes” isn’t what I would be looking for in a Bond film in any case.
The Soloist
Hero
I fell asleep several times watching Cruise running around in MI movies. That never happened with Craig's Bond movies.
Ruin Explorer
Legend
Hasn't it? It sure has for me, well or rather I started checking my phone (I don't fall asleep in movies)
I'm British. I was raised on Bond movies. I disliked the MI TV series (albeit I didn't see a whole lot of it, unlike the Man from UNCLE).
I would say Craig's Bond movies are just flatly less fun movies and less exciting/entertaining than most of Mission Impossible. Casino Royale was pretty strong, but nothing after that has really been worth watching imho.
(Also, if we're going to be totally real, the MI ladies have been significantly hotter than the Bond ladies in the Craig era but I realize this is both sexist and controversial! Also there is some crossover - Lea Seydoux for example)
Re: Villeneuve, he's an extremely talented director but I have absolutely zero intrinsic interest in seeing his take on Bond, because frankly, his visual style and ideas are incredibly similar to how the Craig-era Bonds were. Which I presume is partly why they picked him.
However, I don't think he's a great action director. I don't think any of his films have particularly hugely compelling action (and yeah I'm including Sicario, I don't think that's making any "best action movies" lists on its actual merits, whereas Casino Royale would), I think he's a lot better at thinky and talky scenes, and honestly? I don't know if we need a whole lot more of that from Bond. I'd rather see him ski off a mountain and open a union jack parachute than have some kind of nuanced but ultimately extremely politically "safe" discussion of geopolitics.
I'll be happy if he does something great but I'm not really expecting it, and I'm now expecting we get some kinda jerky-in-a-churlish/cheap way (rather than a cool way) and slightly ugly-in-a-model-ish way Bond rather than someone who oozes style or the like.
payn
Glory to Marik
Pretty much. Though, I am interested to see where it goes as I liked this move in the Craig era.
Paul Farquhar
Legend
I spent the Craig Bond films on my phone, so that kept me awake.
Ruin Explorer
Legend
He's definitely going to be able to pull of the "2 hour long luxury watch advert aimed at your dad" (or rather, I guess we are the dads now, age-wise lol) aspect of Bond movies, which has solidified since the Brosnan era.
Ruin Explorer
Legend
It's surprisingly hard to say based on recent choices, which have been kind of all over the place and surprisingly modern.
I wouldn't expect Amazon to change that. Most recent was Billie Eilish. Chapelle Roan, because she can actually sing and could do the right general "sort" of song would be I guess my like, 15% chance guess, because I can't think of anyone with a higher chance right now, but things might be pretty different a year from now or whenever when the actual person is decided on.
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