JollyDoc's Shackled City

[Mortepierre]

Finally coming out of the shadows to congratulate Jollydoc on an amazing work and Gfunk on amazing powergaming

Yours is one of the only 3 SH I actually spent time compiling in a Word file (and then transforming into PDF with pics and footnotes), the other two being In Hextor's Name and Sep's SH. 190 pages and counting for yours

Gfunk, two things if I may.

1) might I suggest including the "Ascetic" mention in your next update of Caine's powers? Would make it easier on people trying to backtrack how you built up your character.

2) given an Archon can only teleport himself and (up to) 50 pounds of objects, could you explain how Caine's celestial familiar managed to teleport live persons in the past? (even if they were dead, like Tilly's remains, logic would suggest they weighed more than 50 lbs, no?)

On a side note, did you notice that many of the Upper Planar races described both in MM and BoED receive different elemental resistance according to each book? Eladrins for instance are supposed to resist fire if you follow MM but resist acid instead in BoED I wonder if that was a sneak errata or a typo...

 

[Joachim]

The half-fiend wizard in reference is an NPC...stay tuned.

PS G...you forgot to mention that the noble salamander incidient was the SECOND time Joachim's new character got smacked down in as many weeks.

The noble salamander was a smack-down, to be true (all resulting from how the room was set-up and spell like abilities, but getting beat about the head and shoulder was my fault), but I don't consider the first event a smack-down. Being neutralized by a spell that allows no save (any guesses anyone?) doesn't really impact my ego at all...its just part of playing the party tank.

Funny...y'all have seemed to forget how the encounter with the Bebilith went...hmmm. Remember that while you are beating on your chest, there, Mr. DM.

 

[gfunk]

Yours is one of the only 3 SH I actually spent time compiling in a Word file (and then transforming into PDF with pics and footnotes), the other two being In Hextor's Name and Sep's SH. 190 pages and counting for yours

Cool, was it similar to my own compiled CotSQ PDF?

1) might I suggest including the "Ascetic" mention in your next update of Caine's powers? Would make it easier on people trying to backtrack how you built up your character.

Not sure what you mean here, could you please elaborate?

2) given an Archon can only teleport himself and (up to) 50 pounds of objects, could you explain how Caine's celestial familiar managed to teleport live persons in the past? (even if they were dead, like Tilly's remains, logic would suggest they weighed more than 50 lbs, no?)

Heh, I guess I missed the objects part. But Jules has only teleported a living creature a few times in memory (one being the evil halfling from Zenith Trajectory). The other times he either carried a dead Tilly, Tilly's equipment, or (in the lastest session) party members inside a bag of holding. And, believe it or not, Tilly's naked body weights ~36 lbs.

On a side note, did you notice that many of the Upper Planar races described both in MM and BoED receive different elemental resistance according to each book?

Yeah, probably a typo. But we haven't had the opportunity to fight any of them. That's a job for Entropy and Co.

 

[Mortepierre]

Cool, was it similar to my own compiled CotSQ PDF?

A lot. Still have to work on editing a bit though. Not having all the issues of Dungeon containing the Adventure Path series makes it difficult to include all the pics I wanted to add (though copyright is probably an issue there.. )

Not sure what you mean here, could you please elaborate?

Well, unless I am mistaken, Caine is built according to the Ascetic character template from BoED, no? It's that template that allows him to have so many bonus Exalted feats compared to say, a "normal" Sorcerer that would just have taken up Exalted feats along the way. Thus including Ascetic somewhere in his description would help methink. A similar case would be applying the Saint template from BoED and failing to write it down. People would see a character with many nifty powers but possibly fail to understand how he got them in the first place.

Heh, I guess I missed the objects part. But Jules has only teleported a living creature a few times in memory (one being the evil halfling from Zenith Trajectory). The other times he either carried a dead Tilly, Tilly's equipment, or (in the lastest session) party members inside a bag of holding. And, believe it or not, Tilly's naked body weights ~36 lbs

True, I forgot 3.5 D&D halflings were feather light nowadays. I guess I am still picturing the healthy halflings from Tolkien

 

[gfunk]

Well, unless I am mistaken, Caine is built according to the Ascetic character template from BoED, no?

Not exactly, it's called the Vow of Poverty feat. I did mention that in my character outline, but I'll be sure to make it clearer in the next Caine update toninght. BTW, he took a level of Apostle of Peace.

 

[Lela]

Not exactly, it's called the Vow of Poverty feat. I did mention that in my character outline, but I'll be sure to make it clearer in the next Caine update toninght. BTW, he took a level of Apostle of Peace.

Nice!

 

[Mortepierre]

Not exactly, it's called the Vow of Poverty feat. I did mention that in my character outline, but I'll be sure to make it clearer in the next Caine update toninght. BTW, he took a level of Apostle of Peace.

And you're absolutely correct. I guess I started to call it the "Ascetic template" partly because Sep does in his SH and partly because (on p.30 of BoED) the text uses ascetic multiple times to describe the person receiving the powers of Voluntary Poverty. Mea culpa

 

[Lela]

It's the same thing. You just gain it by taking the feat.

 

[Mortepierre]

It's the same thing. You just gain it by taking the feat.

Actually, the feat is just one of the two prerequisites for walking the path of Voluntary Poverty. I like to think there is more role-play involved in that (as Caine superbly demonstrated) than just game mechanics

 

[Lela]

The other prerequisite being the forsaking of all valubles? Good point. I certainly agree that the RP factor shouldn't be ignored by any means. Caine was the reason I bought the BoED after all.

Speeaking of BoED, Gfunk and Joachim, I wanted to run an idea past you (seeing as you have experience with these books and all). Using the PHB, BOED, and SS I was considering making a Sucubus (sp?) with the Vow of Poverty. Afterwords (13th) I wanted to try out some Paladin levels (enough for Divine Grace) and then, pending DM approval, Templar from DotF.

What do ya think?