Just saw X-Men III (Now with spoilers!)

[Wayside]

But this is the movie, and its already been shown that the xschool does not support killing from 1 and 2, so the blatant use of it was a big diversion from its own mythos.

Dude, you keep saying this, which leads me to believe you've never actually seen X2. If you're going from memory, don't. Watch all 3 movies together. You'll find the disconnect you're trying to prove here isn't nearly as pronounced as you'd like it to be.

If you're a comic book reader, you know that the x-men will try to use other tactics to apprehend minor mutants and criminals. They wouldnt kill in the name of professor X.

First things first. This is the movie, and you have to go by the mythos you establish in the movie. That is why I am not touching the inconsistiacies with the comib book.

What about the inconsistencies in your own argument?

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

Watched it and one this weekend. What you are referring to is the 'minion beatdown" where the men are knocked from side to side, not stabbed or killed. The only timie military were killed was by the brotherhood.

What version of the movie do you have?

Wolverine is definitely KILLING those military guys with his CLAWS in the mansion.

 

[mhacdebhandia]

Like the guy whose chest he shoved both sets of claws through and into the door of the fridge behind him.

There's no blood, probably for ratings purposes, but there are six vertical slashes in the fridge.

Wolverine actually using his claws to kill was one of the major departures between X-Men and X2, and was clearly noted by everyone I saw both movies with - and I went to both films in a group of thirty people.

 

[Wayside]

Watched it and one this weekend. What you are referring to is the 'minion beatdown" where the men are knocked from side to side, not stabbed or killed. The only timie military were killed was by the brotherhood.

Wolverine kills 10 soldiers--that's regular humans, not mutants--in minutes 35-39 of the movie. The last 2 look like they might not have received fatal wounds, but the rest are all pretty obviously gone. They would've been joined by a lot more, too, if Stryker hadn't shown up.

 

[DonTadow]

Dude, you keep saying this, which leads me to believe you've never actually seen X2. If you're going from memory, don't. Watch all 3 movies together. You'll find the disconnect you're trying to prove here isn't nearly as pronounced as you'd like it to be.



What about the inconsistencies in your own argument?

I have, I mean dang, the bad thing is you couldn't help but watch the movies before this movie came out. Every channel every day. I honestly watched two on cable the day before when i got to my friends beach home. I watched the second half later in the week. When you see those last two alive, they show you that so that you realize htat he was giving them non fatal wounds. I will watch it again, but I remember seeing it and commenting to my GF About that scene. As a matter of fact, the irony is we were having a conversation in the car about how they tried to remain faithful and how unfahtiful batman was to the mythos. It was a surprise and made ma hypocrit to see x-3.

There are no deaths of people just "doing their job".The only deaths are absolutely have to situations. They certainly didn't kill a bunch of teenagers in the name of a war. Talk about Tetiman square.

As for my argument, I said that comic book wise there wre lots of inconsistances and named them, but said that the inconsisitances are not why i didnt like the movie, i just through them out there. The other two movies attempted to stay somewhat faithful to the mythos whereas the last cose another route

 

[GandhitheBFG]

Personally, I saw Wolverine killing the Brotherhood mutants as pretty much in character. He's had a lot going on in the film, and the series as a whole, and he's not the best person at dealing with emotions.

Add the fact that he's probably psychotic (i'm not sure of the exact definition), violent, has razorsharp adamantine claws, and an excuse to use 'em (the fact that *they* were trying to kill *him*), well...

As has already been mentioned, he volunteered for the Weapon X process.

He's not a nice guy.

 

[Plane Sailing]

I thought it was an excellent film, well made. Slightly below the spiderman movies, but above any of the other comic book movies that I've seen.

I liked the twists in the plot (and the ending), I felt that there was more emotional depth and impact than I'd seen in the other x-men movies and if they do end it here (and don't do any more) it would be a fitting end to a series of three films.

I honestly don't think there is anything I'd have changed for the film.

Cheers

 

[Firebeetle]

I said both of them were ok for what they were. They were at least comic book movies. And please, Richard Pryor is HILLARIOUS. Made the movie for me (especially when you didn't see a lot of black comics in main stream movies at the time).

Still avoiding the issue of "OK" or "Ape crap", which is it?

Yeah, you're right about Richard Pryor. Richard Pryor would have made this movie too. He could play a mutant that burns like the human torch but only when he's running. Everybody would be talking about how much better he was that Patrick Stewart and Ian McKlellan. Man, he's just that good.

As for the RIddler and two face. It was very golden age super hero human, not television. Of course your collection has to expand past the 90s to get that.

Son, I used to sell Silver Age comics for a living. Tell me what issue has Two-face laughing hysterically like the Joker and I'll concede this point.

Xmen is going to break records, but it is again another failed attempt at hollywood to make a comic book movie only for some idiot director to get it and turn it into his big explosion action fest. I mean, man, these were the dumbest X-men ever.

No, they talk through the whole film. Colusses doesn't have many lines, but that doesn't make him dumb just underpaid.

The rest is just fanboy tirade, so I'll skip it. I won't respond to the next one, last word is yours.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

There are no deaths of people just "doing their job".The only deaths are absolutely have to situations.

Wolverine practically went crazy and killed tons of soldiers who were just "doing their job". He put six claws through the CHEST of one of them, and put his claws into the necks of at least two...not to mention general slashing through people and clawing someone's foot before dragging them offscreen.

But this is in no way a huge departure...even from the comics. Wolverine is an animal and a killer. He's got the whole bad boy thing going and that's why he's taken over not only the movies, but the comics for a long while, too.

 

[Arnwyn]

Saw it last night. Speaking as someone who knows very little about the X-Men and doesn't care for comics, this movie stunk it up for me. Considering the previous two movies, the events in this movie, and then the end tidbits, it felt like a big waste of my time. But then, I thought X2 on a repeated viewing was execrable, so I'm in the minority. Whatever.

Needless to say, I didn't enjoy myself.