Killing a troll with non-magical fire

[Thurbane]

Hypothetical situation: party fights some trolls in the woods, but has no fire or acid spells or items handy to kill them with.

Fow feasible is it for someone to keep chopping them into negative HP while others build a bonfire from wood in the area to use as a funeral pyre?

Also, how about a half-fiend troll who has fire resistance? Would the bonfire do enough damage to overcome the fire resistance?

 

[Darklone]

Here you have it...
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/environment.htm#heatDangers
Oil and torches and alchy fire:
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/goodsAndServices.htm#oil


Even Lava exposure only deals 2d6 of damage. That's not a lot if the guy has fire resistance. Normal fire resistance 5 though will keep him quite a long time alive if he's taking 1d6 fire damage each round from a normal fire (or if he's caught on fire).

Not though that his resistance only works "once" per round, so if several guys keep burning the troll with torches (1 point fire damage) while he's caught on fire (1d6) and lying on a fire (1d6) while being soaked with oil (1d3 or 1d6 depending how you use it), all this damage will stack... and will usually be more than fire resistance 5, depending on how much oil and torches you have, even more than fire resistance 10.

 

[Legildur]

I thought you could suffocate regenerating creatures as that doesn't depend on damage (which would be converted to non-lethal damage unless from specified attack forms)?

Of course the adventuring equipment table in the PHB doesn't list pillows, so you'll just have to use your bare hands!

 

[MarkB]

Not though that his resistance only works "once" per round

Got a cite for that? To the best of my knowledge, energy resistance works once per attack.

 

[Mouseferatu]

Got a cite for that? To the best of my knowledge, energy resistance works once per attack.

Yep. Energy resistance is per attack/source, not per round. (Barring certain special cases, of course, but these are called out explicitly.)

 

[saucercrab]

Yep. Energy resistance is per attack/source, not per round. (Barring certain special cases, of course, but these are called out explicitly.)

I think it worked once per round in 3.0. Maybe Darklone carried that over to 3.5, not realizing it changed?

 

[Delta]

Agree with the crab -- energy resistance worked once per round in 3.0, changed to every attack in 3.5.

 

[Darklone]

Well guys, I thought so too, but while checking for this thread I had a look at this.

It says pretty clearly that the amount of resisted energy counts per round, not per attack.

I didn't check the errata section though.

Edit:
Ok, on the wizards page the text is different:

Resistance to Energy (Ex): A creature with this special quality ignores some damage of the indicated type each time it takes damage of that kind (commonly acid, cold, fire, or electricity). The entry indicates the amount and type of damage ignored.

 

[Thurbane]

Yep, the wording in the PHB reads "...ignores a certain amount of damage dealt by that damage type each time it is dealt.".

So anyway, back to the original topic, does everyone agree with Darklone on the amount of damage a bonfire should cause each round?

 

[Mouseferatu]

Well guys, I thought so too, but while checking for this thread I had a look at this.

It says pretty clearly that the amount of resisted energy counts per round, not per attack.

Yep. But it's also contradicted by the actual books.