kneeling

biomorph · Jun 30, 2004

Is standing up from a kneeling position a move action or a free action? The book only adresses standing up from a prone position.

Darklone · Jun 30, 2004

There was a nice thread with the respective houserules here some months ago... second.

drunkmoogle · Jun 30, 2004

I don't think kneeling is a DND game term... unless it's one of those things that got added into 3.5.

Anyways, the d20 Modern Combat Actions table lists getting up from kneeling as a move-equivelant action, dropping to kneeling as a free action. Melee attackers get a +2 to hit you, ranged attackers suffer a -2 penalty.

You may need to adjudicate as to whether or not the rogue gets his sneak attack in, though.

biomorph · Jun 30, 2004

The same combat modifiers for kneeling are listed in the PHB. So I guess the answer would be move equivalent if that's what it says in d20 modern.

drunkmoogle said:
I don't think kneeling is a DND game term... unless it's one of those things that got added into 3.5.

Anyways, the d20 Modern Combat Actions table lists getting up from kneeling as a move-equivelant action, dropping to kneeling as a free action. Melee attackers get a +2 to hit you, ranged attackers suffer a -2 penalty.

You may need to adjudicate as to whether or not the rogue gets his sneak attack in, though.

Darklone · Jun 30, 2004

In the last thread, people proposed to make it possible to go with a move action to kneeling from prone and from kneeling to standing .... all without AoOs. But well,... it's a houserule.

Legildur · Jul 1, 2004

See 'Rules of the Game: All About Movement (Part 2) at

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20040618a

Stand Up from Prone: Use this action to get up when you're lying on the ground. This does not count as movement, but you're pretty darn close to defenseless when regaining your feet, so standing up provokes attacks of opportunity. Getting to your feet when seated on the ground is just as difficult as getting up from a prone position and also requires a move action that provokes attacks of opportunity. If you're kneeling on the ground, getting up takes some time, but it doesn't make you vulnerable, so you use a move action that doesn't provoke attacks of opportunity. Getting up from a chair is a free action that doesn't provoke attacks of opportunity if the chair is fairly high; otherwise it's just like getting up from a prone position.

That's my emphasis, and I can't see anything in the PHB to support it, but there it is if you accept these sorts of things as official rulings.

Darklone · Jul 1, 2004

http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=76661&highlight=kneel

Here in the old thread was a similar custserv answer... plus the abovementioned houserules.

CombatWombat51 · Jul 1, 2004

Darklone said:
http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=76661&highlight=kneel

Here in the old thread was a similar custserv answer... plus the abovementioned houserules.

Yeah, custserv just told me to make it up :\