Kukris and daggermasters

[Tai]

I'm planning to make a Halfling daggermaster, and I'm wondering what people here think about the kukri.

First of all, can daggermasters use them? It says in the Adventurer's Vault that a rogue proficient with a kukri can treat it as a dagger for the purpose of the rogue weapon proficiency class feature. As far as I can tell, this doesn't mean that daggermasters can treat them as daggers, but if that's the case there doesn't really seem to be a lot of point in using them - the rapier has more damage, and there isn't a lot of need to use two weapons as a rogue as best I can tell. My DM has said that I can use it as a dagger for the Daggermaster crit range, and for Rogue Weapon Mastery, but what do you guys think?

 

[Blizzardb]

I always thought that you cannot use a kukri for the daggermaster paragon path and the point of the kukri is to be a great off-hand weapon (for a tempest fighter or something) with brutal 1.

I could be wrong, though.

 

[Klaus]

I'm planning to make a Halfling daggermaster, and I'm wondering what people here think about the kukri.

First of all, can daggermasters use them? It says in the Adventurer's Vault that a rogue proficient with a kukri can treat it as a dagger for the purpose of the rogue weapon proficiency class feature. As far as I can tell, this doesn't mean that daggermasters can treat them as daggers, but if that's the case there doesn't really seem to be a lot of point in using them - the rapier has more damage, and there isn't a lot of need to use two weapons as a rogue as best I can tell. My DM has said that I can use it as a dagger for the Daggermaster crit range, and for Rogue Weapon Mastery, but what do you guys think?

Dude, if your DM is already agreeing to it, go along with it!



Personally, I'd allow it.

 

[Saeviomagy]

It seems that whomever was in charge of rogues was a little scared of them, so through mp and av, everything they got was quite limited (wherever it's not an outright mistake, that is).

So, kukris for daggermasters is just fine in terms of power. In my book, the limitation is either a mistake, or extremely conservative for no good reason.

 

[Tai]

For a tempest fighter you're better off taking a double sword. d8 damage is more than d6 brutal 1, and it has an extra point of proficiency bonus and +1 AC. There isn't really much to recommend it when it has a +2 bonus, and off-hand doesn't really mean much to rogues...

 

[Blizzardb]

For a tempest fighter you're better off taking a double sword. d8 damage is more than d6 brutal 1, and it has an extra point of proficiency bonus and +1 AC. There isn't really much to recommend it when it has a +2 bonus, and off-hand doesn't really mean much to rogues...

True, but the double sword is actually better than everything, not only the kukri And you may have a reason to want an off hand weapon that is not a double weapon.

 

[Tai]

I thought that as well, but I can't think of one ^^;; I guess the kukri just falls into the reject heap that his off-hand weapons that aren't double weapons...

Okay, now comes the more interesting question: would you allow a halfling sorceror with rogue multiclass to use a kukri as an implement? And would you allow him to be a daggermaster, get the crit range, and buy rogue weapon mastery to make his arcane attacks high crit?

 

[Blizzardb]

I thought that as well, but I can't think of one

Here is a reason - you have found a powerful artefact, but it is one handed and you need something for the other hand

 

[Pbartender]

I thought that as well, but I can't think of one...

Here's another - Your DM thinks double swords are silly, and won't let you have one.