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Kzach

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No, not really. You'd have to ask me how the IT group came by that conclusion before you could come to a valid conclusion that it was anecdotal.
Irrespective of how they came to their conclusion's, it's still anecdotal because no scientific method was used. The data is functionally useless, which you already know but seem intent on ignoring for the sake of argument.

Dude, please either take a constructive part of the conversation, or go find something else to do.
It would be entirely constructive if you were at all open to the truth instead of misinformation and lies. But since you want to be confrontational and argumentative instead of listen to logic, reason and fact, I'll discontinue posting in this thread.
 

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Plane Sailing

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It would be entirely constructive if you were at all open to the truth instead of misinformation and lies. But since you want to be confrontational and argumentative instead of listen to logic, reason and fact, I'll discontinue posting in this thread.

that's no way to talk to anyone on enworld, and you know it - you've certainly been warned before. I'm banning you for a week; it might be longer after discussion. You don't get to use anyone here as a punchbag
 



Janx

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Umbran

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Maybe a good question for Umbran is, what's your budget?

That's a good question. My new employer may be giving me justification for taking the laptop as a tax deduction, which may change the picture somewhat.

The puget site listed $2K for a laptop when I clicked their main link.

$2K! No, if anything, this discussion has convinced me that a $600 to $800 mainstream mid-range box will satisfy my needs.

Did Umbran ever decide on something?

I have looked at a few, and depending how tomorrow goes, I may make a final purchase. I'll update when I do, and talk at length as to why...

But, for the moment, I have to prep for my Deadlands game tonight!
 

Janx

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$2K! No, if anything, this discussion has convinced me that a $600 to $800 mainstream mid-range box will satisfy my needs.

That price range is why I tend to not even consider PC gaming. It always seems like the new games require better than what $600-800 can buy, especially on a laptop. That's why I suggested a console (not your preference, I understand, but that's where my logic chain takes me).

That price range also rules out a Mac (Mac air starts at $999 from Appe's site). I'm not sure what bee was up kzach's bonnet, but it was a pretty simple decision that you were price wary and Apple costs more.

We run mostly Lenovo at my job for laptops, and I haven't seen any failures in the 2 years I've been there. They feel cheaper (plasticy) compared to the HP/Compaq's I used for 13 years, but we haven't had any problems.
 

Satin Knights

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I have been very happy with ToshibaDirect.com. On their high end laptops, you can customize almost every major component. Depending on the model, you are going to choose from 2-4 choices of cpu, ram, video integrated or discrete, optical drive, one or two harddrives (on the large laptops), (I had the option of SSD factory installed on mine), network cards, battery, etc.

So, you spend an afternoon shopping and seeing what the options are. Then you go see what current games can be handled by the options available. The P770D seems to favor the GeForce® GT 540M for the discrete video card at the moment. Then you go research to see if that card is barely adequate or exceptional at the games you are interested in.

Their P770D models are starting at around $700 for a 17" widescreen. I bought a P500 with an 18.4" screen that has been going strong for two years now. But, it is a heavy monster. Is is so big, I doubt I could carry it on a plane. I think that is why they may have dropped that size from their current line.

As to little tidbits:
Network cards: Choose Intel over Realtek. Intel always performs better. And sometimes Realtek causes interrupt issues that make even mp3 playing choppy.

Discrete video card over integrated: If you can afford it, it makes a big difference.

12 cell battery: just do it.

Extra power cord: A very good idea, but you can get one from a third party at 1/3 the cost.

SSD: If you can possibly swing it, an SSD harddrive makes it feel as if you tripled the performance of the machine. The large high end Toshiba laptops have the option of SSD for the OS drive, and a large spinning internal drive for the data. That is the very best in performance, but can easily cost another $300-$500. I have done aftermarket SSD replacements on several machines and won't have another personal machine without.

And, ToshibaDirect.com does little tidbit sales that seem to change daily. This day it might be an extra 20% off the optical drive upgrade. Next day it is and extra 2 GB RAM for free. So, if there is a specific option you are waffling on, watch the site over a couple days and it might go on sale. Once you click the button, it takes about 10 days to build and ship. Patience might save you $20.

Reliability: Well, my boss has been buying Toshiba "because they just work" since the Pentium III days. My one has been good. I haven't had to do the support route on it. And people hate Dell, but when I call, read them a serial number, and say I need a replacement keyboard, they respond with "Cost is this, it will be there in two days." So, I cannot complain about Dell. They don't complain that it is seven years old. They still have the parts.

Opinions on other companies: Lenovo: No way. HP: no. Acer: You know you are buying cheap. Don't complain when it is cheap. Opinions based on repairing at least two of each brand for friends or family.
 

dogoftheunderworld

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Toshiba is rated by Consumer Reports as having the fewest repairs of the major Laptop-PC brands. Has for a few years running.

I usually by Dell for my desktop and have very few problems personally. I tend to by close to leading edge tech and upgrade it over the years as needed. No issues with my Dell desktops over the last 15 years as I've gone thru cycles of upgrade parts for about 5 years and then buy a new machine.


Support is support. Good days & bad days. I have generally been able to find the answers I need on Dells support website. HPs website is not bad. Acer, terrible. Others, unknown. I've had good experiences contacting Dell by phone. HP, not so much.


Good luck!
 

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