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Li Shenron said:
Trademark would be cruel (it's not a common word in English, i think it's Swedish, but trademarking names which are a single words sounds bad), but does someone remember... was there an entire RPG called "Maelström"?

It's not swedish, as far as I know, and I'm swedish. Sort of. For "maelstroms" we just use "virvel" or "virvelström".

It's probably scandinavian though. Probably from the viking age or something.

I still like Stormwrack, and if anybody missed my two previous posts, "wrack" is an official english word for "destruction or ruin". Or so I gathered after doing a search.

Cheers!

M.
 

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More proof of the Dutch Illuminati...

From Merriam-Webster's online dictionary...

Main Entry: mael·strom
Pronunciation: 'mA(&)l-str&m, -"sträm
Function: noun
Etymology: obsolete Dutch (now maalstroom), from malen to grind + strom stream
1 : a powerful often violent whirlpool sucking in objects within a given radius
The The Online Etmology Dictionary notes that 'maelstrom' might perhaps stem "...originally from Færoic mal(u)streymur," and that its usage in English is post 1400 AD.

Now, whether that's more or less dumb than 'Stormwrack', I don't know. I liked the original titles for both of the titles that were changed. They sounded, well, less mundane.
 
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i know that i'd have been annoyed to see a product called maelstrom that had nothing to do with one of the coolest features of Dragonlance =)
 

diaglo said:
they perhaps don't want to confuse it with an OoP product TSR released years ago.
That hasn't stopped them before: Unearthed Arcana, Arms & Equipment Guide, Draconomicon, Lords of Darkness, Deities & Demigods, and Fiend Folio were all titles of D&D things in 1e and/or 2e.
 

Maggan said:
It's not swedish, as far as I know, and I'm swedish. Sort of. For "maelstroms" we just use "virvel" or "virvelström".
Dunno about you, but I've heard the word "malström" used in Swedish. I think it's more common in Norwegian, though.
 

The inside word is that after "Maelstrom" was discarded, the two remaining title choices were "Stormwrack" and "Water, what is it good for?" Apparently it came down to a coin toss.
 


From TheAuldGump's link above:

--A maelstrom as in Norway, is a whirling action of a single tide as it sweeps into underwater caves and out again, meeting itself, thus causing a revolutioning motion. A real whirlpool is caused by a head-on collision of two or more tides coming from different directions. The Old Sow is a genuine whirlpool.

...and from the dictionary of etymology:

maelstrom
1682 (Hakluyt has Malestrand, c.1560), "whirlpool off the northwest coast of Norway," from Dan. malstrøm (1673), from Du. Maelstrom, lit. "grinding-stream," from malen "to grind" (see meal) + stroom "stream." Name given by Du. cartographers (e.g. Mercator, 1595). Perhaps originally from Færoic mal(u)streymur. Popularized as a synonym for "whirlpool" c.1841.

...so apparently the term traces it's roots to old Dutch.



BTW the namesake for the term Maelstrom (or Moskenstraumen as it is known in Norwegian) was described by Edgar Allen Poe in his story A Descent into the Maelstrom.

...and in a slightly less lurid account from Sailing Directions for the Northwest and North Coasts of Norway:

Though rumor has greatly exaggerated the importance of the Maelström, or more properly Moskenstraumen, which runs between Mosken and Lofotodden, it is still the most dangerous tideway in Lofoten, its violence being due, in great measure, to the irregularity of the ground. . . . As the strength of the tide increases the sea becomes heavier and the current more irregular, forming extensive eddies or whirlpools (Maelström). During such periods no vessel should enter the Moskenstraumen.

These whirlpools are cavities in the form of an inverted bell, wide and rounded at the mouth and narrower toward the bottom; they are largest when first formed and are carried along with the current, diminishing gradually until they disappear; before the extinction of one, two or three more will appear, following each other like so many pits in the sea. . . .

Fishermen affirm that if they are aware of their approach to a whirlpool and have time to throw an oar or any other bulky body into it they will get over it safely; the reason is that when the continuity is broken and the whirling motion of the sea interrupted by something thrown into the water must rush suddenly in on all sides and fill up the cavity. For the same reason, in strong breezes, when the waves break, though there may be a whirling round, there can be no cavity. In the Saltström [another tideway] boats and men have been drawn down by these vortices, and much loss of life has resulted.
 
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