Leaving ENworld at last

[Gundark]

Come over to the Paizo boards, your Greyness. It's better there.

If better you mean 4e flame threads and crazy WotC conspiracy theories (some which are instigated by Paizo people themselves), and arguements that are nasty and go on for pages then yes.

 

[Darrin Drader]

If better you mean 4e flame threads and crazy WotC conspiracy theories (some which are instigated by Paizo people themselves), and arguements that are nasty and go on for pages then yes.

That really hasn't been my experience at all. Yes, there is a definite bias towards 3.5 and Pathfinder, which is to be expected, but I have yet to see a Paizo employee intentionally stirring the flames or starting conspiracy rumors. If you can find an example that proves me wrong, I'd love to see it.

 

[Greylock]

He's probably alluding to the the avatar of the OP, a "grey". /M

Well... I certainly hope so. Thought I saw Turanil looking at me funny, and I wasn't sure what kind of funny, and well, frankly I was wearing tight pants you know, and I'd hate to have to smack T on his last day and everything, but I know I am an attractive git, so I guess I'd forgive him. IF he were looking at my butt.

 

[Eosin the Red]

If better you mean 4e flame threads and crazy WotC conspiracy theories (some which are instigated by Paizo people themselves), and arguements that are nasty and go on for pages then yes.

I'll second the "I'd like to see an example" comment to prove that this is not a crazy Paizo conspiracy theory.

 

[Herremann the Wise]

Firstly can I say to Turanil: "Please don't go or at the very least, don't cancel your account." Every good poster who leaves here just thins the ratio of good to bad. I believe I share your thoughts in regards to the boards here, but that makes me want to stay all the more. I wish it were the same for you.

Someone asked upthread what the issue is:

A casual observation perhaps may suffice. In the last couple of months there have been so many 3E/4E threads that seem to have the same people attacking or defending a particular poster's favoured edition. What this has done is drown out the good threads that foster the community here - where players look to support one another rather than take the opportunity to explain to someone why they are wrong. It gets back to one of the key ethos's at En World: "Don't try to win". I think too many people have forgetten this and alas, good people and posters don't have the presence on the boards that they once had.

Best Regards
Herremann the Wise

 

[Fifth Element]

If you can find an example that proves me wrong, I'd love to see it.

Preferably not in this thread. I don't think the mods look kindly on discussions about other messageboards.

 

[Fifth Element]

Both sides claim moderator bias because the moderation can be touch and go at times. I've seen BLATENTLY insulting posts go by several times, aimed at both sides, only to find that the person reporting those insulting posts is the one banned from the thread.

As have I. But inconsistent moderation is not the same as biased moderation. If it were biased, it would be consistent.

 

[Azgulor]

It gets back to one of the key ethos's at En World: "Don't try to win". I think too many people have forgetten this and alas, good people and posters don't have the presence on the boards that they once had.

Best Regards
Herremann the Wise

As someone whose visits ENWorld with less and less due to similar concerns with the hostile environment, I can understand where the OP is coming from. Your advice, while good in principle, from my experience doesn't always hold up in practice. Posts that seem harmless questions or invitations for discussion suddenly become the flamebait of the day. I too, have noticed a less-than-consistent oversight by the admins of the site.

[And that particular criticism isn't sour grapes on my part as I'm not referring to my posts I've made, just ones I've read. The one time an admin gave me a warning, after rereading what I had written, I understood where the admin was coming from.]

I've written posts and then cancelled them b/c I've learned to assess the likelihood that rather than discussing RPGs, campaigns, plots, etc. it'll be threadjacked for the edition-war-thread of the day. Once you feel like you're likely to be attacked, dismissed, etc. and that trying to get thread responses back to the good-old-days will be viewed as trying to "win", one starts to wonder "why would you even bother?".

I used to come to ENWorld to relax, read story hours, and share some ideas with fellow gamers. There are still a few story hours I read regularly, but 90% of my game-related posts are now made on other sites. I'd like to think that ENWorld will one day return to what it used to be but I think those days are long gone. If it ever does return, I think it's a long, long, long way off.

I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

 

[Angel Tarragon]

You have inspired me on more than one occassion Turanil, know that you will be missed.

 

[jmucchiello]

For those who did read some of my posts back in the days, I am closing my account and leaving ENworld.

I don't think I've ever "closed" an account and formally left a message board. I've stopped showing up to many of them. But actually closing the account, that's always been more effect than the board was worth if I was leaving for good. I find it odd, that's all. I also find the "at last" odd. Does this mean it's a relief to you that you are leaving? Strange.

Good Luck where ever you end up. The door's always open.