Leif's Homebrew 4E, OOC1

[Leif]

Scotley, why are you using the 'minroll' function? Why can't your damage die come up less that 3 before your modifiers are added?

 

[Walking Dad]

I'm not Scotley, but I think Basher uses a weapon with the 'brutal 2' quality.

 

[Scotley]

Thanks WD, that is correct. Here's the entry on Brutal from Adventurer's Vault:

Brutal: A brutal weapon’s minimum damage is higher than that of a normal weapon. When rolling the weapon’s damage, reroll any die that displays a value equal to or lower than the brutal value given for the weapon. Reroll the die until the value shown exceeds the weapon’s brutal value, and then use the new value.
For example, the execution axe has a property of brutal 2. If a fighter wielding this weapon hits with steel serpent strike (a 2[W] power), the player rolls 2d12 for the weapon damage, rerolling a die result of 1 or 2 until the die shows 3 or higher.

 

[renau1g]

Yeah I love me that brutal quality. I love the Executioner Axe for a barbarian....mmmm high crit + high dmg + brutal = watch out...

 

[Leif]

I'm not Scotley, but I think Basher uses a weapon with the 'brutal 2' quality.

Are you sure??? You look an awful lot like Scotley to me!

Thanks WD, that is correct. Here's the entry on Brutal from Adventurer's Vault:
Brutal: A brutal weapon’s minimum damage is higher than that of a normal weapon. When rolling the weapon’s damage, reroll any die that displays a value equal to or lower than the brutal value given for the weapon. Reroll the die until the value shown exceeds the weapon’s brutal value, and then use the new value.
For example, the execution axe has a property of brutal 2. If a fighter wielding this weapon hits with steel serpent strike (a 2[W] power), the player rolls 2d12 for the weapon damage, rerolling a die result of 1 or 2 until the die shows 3 or higher.

Ok, thanks. Got it, now. But, in the example, how do you get a 1 on 2d12??

Yeah I love me that brutal quality. I love the Executioner Axe for a barbarian....mmmm high crit + high dmg + brutal = watch out...

Good think it's Basher7 with the brutal axe and not Tarrk, I guess! Or does Tarrk have one, too?

 

[Walking Dad]

Are you sure??? You look an awful lot like Scotley to me!

(Puts the scotch away)... Uhm, sorry, look again.

Ok, thanks. Got it, now. But, in the example, how do you get a 1 on 2d12??

The property is per die. With 2d12 (brutal 2) you can't roll below 6.

Good think it's Basher7 with the brutal axe and not Tarrk, I guess! Or does Tarrk have one, too?

No, it's an exotic weapon and Tarrk went with Toughness as 1st level feat. BTW, is there any brutal weapon with a +3 proficiency bonus?

 

[Ozymandias79]

BTW, is there any brutal weapon with a +3 proficiency bonus?

no, there isnt

 

[renau1g]

Nope they're way too brutal to get that extra to hit. Trade the higher damage for the lower hit chance. For most people I'd stick with the +3 bonus as you're static damage is usually much higher than the dice damage (especially strikers). Exception is the Avenger class, rolling the 2d20 to attack your oath target means you can get away with the lower prof bonus.

 

[renau1g]

Nope they're way too brutal to get that extra to hit. Trade the higher damage for the lower hit chance. For most people I'd stick with the +3 bonus as you're static damage is usually much higher than the dice damage (especially strikers). Exception is the Avenger class, rolling the 2d20 to attack your oath target means you can get away with the lower prof bonus.

 

[Leif]

Nope they're way too brutal to get that extra to hit. Trade the higher damage for the lower hit chance. For most people I'd stick with the +3 bonus as you're static damage is usually much higher than the dice damage (especially strikers). Exception is the Avenger class, rolling the 2d20 to attack your oath target means you can get away with the lower prof bonus.

Nope they're way too brutal to get that extra to hit. Trade the higher damage for the lower hit chance. For most people I'd stick with the +3 bonus as you're static damage is usually much higher than the dice damage (especially strikers). Exception is the Avenger class, rolling the 2d20 to attack your oath target means you can get away with the lower prof bonus.

Dang, Ryan, you said it twice and I STILL don't know what you're talking about!!