Limited Wish and Permanancy Question

[Demon Knight]

Permanancy: "You cast the desired spell and then follow it with the permanacy spell

That's from the spell description in the PHB (1st printing). Seems to put all fears to rest about where the spell can come from. Whoever is casting the permanancy must be the one who casts the spell.

But of course, if this has changed, then I'm wrong. I don't have any other printings of the spell.

 

[Janos Antero]

Hrm, thanks! That pretty much answers the issue if it hasn't changed, and I missed that when I asked a day or two ago about that issue.

 

[Bauglir]

A targetted dispell, and then only by one of equal or greater caster level. Even then I like the idea of it being temporary (1d4 rounds) as it is with items, anyway.

Equal or greater caster level than you were when you made the effect.. so if you make a permenant effect at level 11, and it's (somehow) still there at level 20, a caster of 11th level or greater can still strip it.

Also targetted dispels on the casters are a matter of course - to get through their spell defences.

I agree on the d4 rounds thing in principle, although that swings the pendulum the other way (permenancy'd effects don't take up a slot) - perhaps d4 days?